February 27, 2024 • 32 mins
"Girls" is a love letter to Rachel Platten's children--perhaps to herself as well. And if you have daughters (or you ARE a daughter) you'll embrace it as your own. The singer/songwriter that brought you "Fight Song" always writes from her heart and we feel her music in ours.
Join us for this sweet, intimate conversation where we speak of the dark times that inspire such powerful messages, and the light that's able to illuminate the chords and the lyrics. "Girls" has been out for a while, and her newest, "Mercy", has just been released. She's so amazing, you'll want to get to know her! ~ Delilah
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It is February, and while Gallantine's Day and Valentine's Day
and my birthday are behind us, love is not love
is in us. Love is around us every day in
the smallest and the most monumentous of ways. I stumbled
across to quote about love that I've shared on Facebook,
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I've shared it in my newsletter, I've shared it on
the air. I find it so perfectly stated and inspiring.
Spend your hours being love. It begins breathing in and out,
setting beside trees and animals and good people, being love,
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not looking for it or desiring it, being beaming, radiating,
loving the world. It's a gentle reminder that being love
is all we're called to do. It takes the pressure
off if you've been feeling pressured to do anything but
just to be, to be love in any way that
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is authentically you. Setting quietly beside trees and animals and
good people is one way. Doing it noisily in the
midst of giggling children or excited participants is another. Sharing
your gifts another Still, your heart will never feel fuller
than when you do these things today. I've got a
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guest with me. I love someone that will attest to
this truth. One of her gifts is music, and one
of her greatest gifts is making empowering music. You may
know her from her hit fight song This is My
Fight Song, released several years ago. Now that became an
overnight success. Why well, because life is not all chocolates
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and roses. It takes grit, It takes determination, it takes courage,
it takes finding the strength thet stand up and fight.
And Rachel Platton, who's been struggling through the brambles herself,
needed an inspirational anthem, and so she wrote one. She's
often quoted as saying she didn't know if anyone else
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would ever hear it. She didn't write it for anyone
but herself when she was at a particular low point.
But hear it and embrace it they did. We did
over and over again. And then Rachel got busy with
other little projects, like becoming a mama to her two girls,
Violet and Sophie. Along with the joys of motherhood, She's
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been open about having to deal with postpartum depression, pandemic anxieties,
leaving her old record label finding new management. In short,
she's just like you and me. Life keeps coming the good,
the not so good, and we keep adjusting our salves
and when we can being love. Last May, she released
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Girls Meant to convey a message of strength for her
daughters and women everywhere, and in October it was re
released as a full band version. Every line, every record,
every word speaks to pure love. If you have children
or if you have a mother, you'll be moved to tears.
I know I was. Rachel says, sometimes sometimes songs feel
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like they come out of the sky like a little
star that I grab. This one came almost pre written.
It was almost like it was revealing itself as I played.
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Laurageller dot com. That it's Laurageller dot com. So Rachel Platten,
welcome to Love Someone, Delilah. You have a new song
out that we are going to delve into and talk about,
such a song that we very tired moms need right now,
and we're going to talk about girls. But before we
get into that, Yeah, I was reminded when I was
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introducing you that I heard one time you said that
you never meant for fight song to be heard by anyone,
really but yourself? Is that true? Like you didn't write
it thinking this is going to become an anthem for
folks everywhere.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You know. I think in the moment of writing it.
First of all, it's an honor to be with you.
I'm so happy to be here. But I think in
the moment of writing it, I mean, now, it was
thirteen years ago, so it's hard to remember exactly, but
I know I was in the studio and I was
just so frustrated with the music industry and how long
I'd been trying to make it quotation marks, you know,
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like just to get paid attention to. I was an
independent artist and I had been touring out of a
van for years and like selling CDs out of a suitcase.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Why do I find that hard to believe looking at you,
because you look like you're twenty two.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
That must just be the light or my new glow
serum that I have to tell you about.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Oh my god, you are glowing.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Thank you, You're so sweet. I'm excited right these days,
I'm feeling good, but I have you know, I walked
through a lot of pain to get to this light again.
And we can talk all about that, but anyway about
fight song. Yeah, So in the moment of writing it,
it was birthed from so much frustration that I didn't
feel like my career that I had been pouring everything
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into was like rewarding me in anywhere it was actually
like fruitful, and I felt like, I'm not making any money.
I'm broke. I'm living in a fifth floor walk up
apartment in New York with cockroaches of my husband.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And cockroaches and my husband. Wow, so what you.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Called the cockroaches? The boys would be like, hey, boys,
what's up.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I've lived in the same apartment, only it was in Boston.
It was the third floor walk up with my son
and the cockroaches. So I get it.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
We'll have to go through that rite of passage.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I think, wow, what a horror. You know, the night
that I really lost it, I opened up the medicine
chest to take his my son, who is like five,
his toothbrush.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You're gonna say, already, yes, I know, I know, I know.
It's so gross.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
And it was like, you know, one o'clock in the morning.
It's not like I could just run down and buy
a new toothbrush. I was like, why God, why am
I here?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh my god. We used to get We called them
the boys. He'd be like, hey boys, all right, we're home.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Scatter, please scatter. We'll drop a crumb on the floor
for you tonight.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
All right, But anyway, fights on. So that's where I was,
just to know where it was, you know, it came from.
It was just so frustrated. I thirteen years, you know,
and and finally I've just reached a breaking point one
day in the studio and I just started singing this
song like and it was for me in that moment,
it was only for me. It was so not about
anyone else. I was just like, I'm not going to
give up on myself. I still believe in myself, Like no,
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even if it's just me, I love this and I'm
going to keep going because I love music. And so yeah,
I wrote it just for me in that moment. And
then as it kind of teased itself out, if you
can believe it, After that, it took two more years
to finish writing it because I was writing it by
myself and I just couldn't figure out the right verses.
It was like I had this powerful chorus that I
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knew was life changing, for me. I could feel the
power of it, and it was almost like I was
afraid to finish it. And you know that Mary and
Williamson quote, I don't think we're afraid.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Of our failures of our successes exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I think that played a part in it. And I
was afraid of what happens when I finished this song.
I could feel the power of it in my life.
And it took two years to finish. Finally finished it,
and when I did, it was again very much for me.
But there was a sense in me like this is
going to be for the world too, and I could
feel that.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And boy, hasn't it been for the world. I cannot
tell you how many people have called me over the years, needing,
not requesting it because oh, this would be a good song.
It's like I need that right now. I need I
need the fight song. I need to hear it. I
need to get through this dark tunnel. I need to
know there's a light at the end of it. I
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don't see any light at the end of it.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
No, I can't relate enough to that feeling, first of all,
for anyone listening, like I just understand. And it's just
been so hard lately for so many of us, and
that darkness can feel so all encompassing.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I don't think Rachel, if somebody saw you, you know,
they see you on a TV show or they see you,
that they would be able to believe for a heartbeat
that you can relate to that. But I know, because
I know people that know you, that you have really
struggled to find the light some days. Is it okay
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to talk about that?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah? Thank you so much for asking permission too. It's
so kind of you because it is hard to talk
about our hard times, and especially publicly. I understand, I know,
and I know that I smile really brightly and huge
and it's and I actually on my TikTok right now
have started to kind of address a little bit of
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that because I have not only Girls out, but another
new song called Mercy, and these songs are talking about
very very deep trauma I went through like Girls isn't
as much but the reck of the album that I'm
a body of work that I'm rolling out, and it's
important for me for people to understand the goal that
it's grounded and something real, that it's not just me.
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You know that I'm actually reaching a hand down into
the darkness because I was there and climbed out, and
some days I'm not all the way out. And I
think it's only when we have been there that we
can really like really help another human and say, yeah,
I see you in there. But for me, I went
through a deep, deep struggle with my mental health over
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the last five years, and music really saved my life.
My songwriting really saved my life. Like, fame is so
weird and it's so unnatural, and attention after years of
not getting attention is very jarring and confusing and can
really feed a part of you that like, let's say,
there's you know, the part of me that communes with
God and receives songs that heal me. That is not
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a part of me that is looking for attention or
fame or anything. That's a very pure I look at
it like my inner artist and like, you know, she's
purely opening herself up to God for healing and music. Right.
But then what gets so confusing is once you get
attention for it, another part of you co ops it
and says and all of a sudden you're like, wait,
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that's not the part, that's not why we're doing this,
But like that that ego part, the fame part, you know,
like the one that wants the attention. Little miss perfect
I call her in my mind, you know, like she
all of a sudden's like, oh, this is all about me.
I'm the reason.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, I I the little miss me. The little miss
perfect me would have destroyed my life, That little miss
perfect me, that show off that I was born to be.
I'm to show off you two. Yeah, of course I
have the part of me.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Of course, look at me. I'm doing everything right and
I and the more I've exploreded and therapy, you know,
I've learned that it really comes from a place of
feeling not enough. Like it's not from feeling too much
or better than anyone. I think for all of us.
That comes from a place of how do I get love?
Like how do I feel special enough to be loved
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and be beyond reproach and like and how do I
how am I okay in the world. That's what I've learned,
And so I have a lot more race and love
for that part of me now of like oh baby, yeah,
you're just a little kid who thinks you're not enough,
like mere me love you.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, So that's where that's where girls hits right in
the fields.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I'm so glad. I thank you so much for that,
and I I'm so proud to have it out there.
I wrote it for my daughters, obviously, but as I
was writing it, I really did realize that it was
for me too, you know. I realized like it was
for the inner Rachel that we were talking about that,
you know, and it was what I wish for myself
as much as it was what I wish for my girls,
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like maybe wild and free and the you know, wind
of your back and your world to your feet. Like gosh,
how many of us need to hear that permission from
a mama figure from ourselves right now? Like you can
do anything. You're okay in this world, take up space,
go make some noise, don't apologize, you know, go after
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your big dreams. Life hurts, You're gonna cry, You're gonna
feel your feelings, but you have permission to feel them.
It was just everything I want my girls to know
in the world.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
And how old are your girls now?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
They are two and four? Oh wait, actually my four
year old just turned five three days ago, So two
and five.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Two and five. Oh what fun fun fun stages, fun
age I'm so sorry, you're you're You're girls are the
same age as my granddaughters, and my daughter is so tired.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Oh god, it is so hard, and I want to
like hug every mama. I just want to hug every
MoMA everywhere.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Sometimes I'm at the grocery store and I see moms,
you know, doing the mom rock with a kid on
the hip, and I start rocking with them, like intuitively,
I don't know, it's just weird, and I just want
to go over and give them a hug and say
you are doing such a good job. And then I'm like,
that is so freaky weird, Delilah, they would they would call.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
What they need to hear. Honestly, if someone came up
to me, I think it's happened to me once before,
Like someone came up to me not knowing who I
was or whatever and just saw a tired mom with
a newborn and a two year old and was just like,
you're doing great, and it was so sweet. So I
try to do that now to other random moms and like, job,
they probably think I'm weird.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
But I don't know, that's okay, that's nice.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
You're it because we are doing such a good job,
and it is so freaking hard, and it is so
thankless sometimes, and like you're so confused. You don't ever
know if you're doing a good job until the very end.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, until you know, and even there you don't know.
So where did you grow up?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I grew up in Boston. What part Newton, Massachusetts, A
couple miles outside of Boston.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So my cockroach experience was one block from Fenway stop. Yeah,
one box stop, no no way, Hey high God, Delia,
Oh yeah, my god, Delilah, you've been to Mike's to
get a canola laid lea oh.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Good, so good an accent that I love.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
So while you were growing up in Boston, I was
in Boston.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
One of the fine I love the grounded, you know,
East Coast noess. I living in LA I sometimes missed
the the just directness.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Of So my producer and longtime friend Janie is from Boston,
and like I was there probably three or four months,
and I said I need to go home. Nobody here
likes me.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Everybody's so.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And She's like, here's the thing. Once they like you,
once they love you, they love you forever. But it's
just breaking forever. You just got to get through. That's
that tough New England.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
No, it's not fake. It's not like it doesn't have
the southern charm that sometimes I prefer to be honest,
like I just be nice and even if you're being fake,
like that's fine with me. But now I but I
appreciate it, you know. Now I get getting older and
learning to be more authentic myself and authentic with my
own feelings and like not as much trying to do
the people pleasing thing as I work through.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
New Englanders are very authentic. They tell you like it is. Yeah. Yeah,
So tell me about the sweet little lady that lives
next door to you that I've been stocky you on
your little videos.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Oh my god, she's so cute.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
And she's so cute. What is she like? One hundred
and ten, she's one hundred.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
She's turned one hundred in August and she's I know
her birthday August thirtieth, because my due date for Sophie
was actually on Gloria's birthday and she was very excited
about that. But yeah, Gloria is a neighbor of mine.
She actually lives, like, you know, a couple streets away,
and she is a friend she's become a friend of mine,
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and she is just the most favacious, adorable, feisty, smart,
incredible woman. She's so talented. She was a piano player,
a classically trained former professional pianist, and she was an
accompany mist company what is that word?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I don't know, the person who plays with you?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And she toured around the world and so we met
my dog. I was during the pandemic. My dog went
to the bathroom on her lawn and I just was
felt too bad. I could tell it was an old
lady's house. And I knocked on the door and I
was like, I'm so sorry, it's scary, but my dog
pooped on your law and do you have a plastic bag?
I could use it?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
So lonely, like I think, she was just like, oh
my god, like forget about the poop. Let's hang out
and and I was lonely. I was like, definitely I have.
I had, you know, a two year old at the time.
I was like yeah, And so we just talked a
little bit. She told me she was a musician too,
and she asked if she could play piano for me.
And I sat outside safely.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And she played the most beautiful piano, and I filmed
it as it was happening because I was like, oh
my god, this is incredible. You guys have to hear.
And it went very viral. So funny, like all the
things that we try to do as artists to get attention,
it's never that thing.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
It's never that thing. It's like the one, the one viral,
the video of mine that went viral was my horse
playing in the mud. Yeah. Yeah, I was riding my
horse and my horse decided they wanted to splash in
the mind and I hopped off and the horse played
in the mud and splashed and had a blast, and
that went Virals.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Played it out. That's so cute.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Like I spend hours putting words over images, and why
I know.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I know, same same. I'm like, listen to my song
and they're like, well, why don't we just listen to
your neighbor.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, let's listen to Gloria.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Don't believe, but she deserves it, to be honest, And
so after that we we just became friends, not because
of the viral video, because I was missing my grandmother
and she my grandmother. As we talked about earlier, Nana
had been one of my best friends in the world.
I loved her more than anything. Gloria was exactly the
age my nana would have been, so I felt a
kinship and like love. I kind of felt like my
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nana was almost, you know, giving me a little substitute grandma.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
A little gift.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah. And we became friends and I'd bring my daughter over.
And she actually told me that I should have another
baby when I was in the middle of writing music
that I was in love with, and I was like
very happy about it, but also feeling like a little
duck and She's like, oh, have another kid. And I
was like, Gloria, no, Like I was so pissed. I
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was like, oh, leave me alone, Like back off, you
sound like my mom or my grandma.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I try so hard not to nag my kids for
more grand babies. I really try it hard, I know,
but it's hard because there's so hard.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I mean, she she had the distance to see me
and be like, sweetheart, this is what it's actually going
to fulfill you right now is creating your family and
being done and like doing that, you know, and giving
yourself to that you're in. It's hard when you're in
the middle of it and you're like halfway through you
have a kid, and then you're like, all right, I'm
gonna get back out there again. You can't really get
back out there because the clock is ticking if you.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Want TikTok, TikTok.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Life is just so hard. We're all just doing our best,
you know. Man. Like it's sometimes the thing that helps
me the most is understanding that it's not supposed to
just be good, Like when I can really just allow
myself to be like it is supposed to be the
ups and downs. It's not just supposed to be happy.
Like who told us that it's just supposed to be joyful.
That's crazy. That's not what we're here for. We're here
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to learn and grow and get closer to you know,
our hearts. And in my life, like I want big
experiences and when you take big swings, you have big
highs and big lows and like it's part of it.
I know. Sometimes when I'm struggling with mental health, I'm like,
I know what God does with me. He plants me
so deep so that my roots can grow so deep
so that when I bloat, when I bloom, it can
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be so tall and beautiful and bright and like, but
it is painful to get taken so low so that
you can go high. It's hard.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So tell me about this Mercy project. Whoo, because I'm
talking about God and our roots going deep. Tell me
about this this Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
So I have a brand new song out called Mercy.
Honestly talking about Mercy brings me so much joy. It
is the thing that I am maybe most proud of,
and have been most proud of since Fight Song. It
is Oh my God, Dee, I'm gonna call you. It
is my soul's cry out to God. When I was
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in the hardest point I've ever been in my life.
I was alone in the middle of my middle of
the night in my studio. My daughter had one hundred
and five fever. I was struggling with postpartum depression very severely.
It was terrifying. We were in the hospital. Blah blah blah.
I got home that night and I just threw my
hands against the floor on the piano, like I'm done.
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I cannot take anymore enough, Mercy, I surrender. Something has
got to give. I can't handle this pain anymore. It's
too much. And what came out of me after that
was so ironically like joyful. It was wild. It was
like it was painful but joyful. It was life, you know,
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it was like holding all of it. It was this
cry of pain and hope and sadness and joy and
all of it. And I was just like wailing on
the piano and what came out in literally twenty minutes
was a song that I am so incredibly in love with,
Like as the writer of it, I'm so proud of it.
And it was just for me, Like talk about being
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just for me, that there was no one else in
my mind that mattered in that moment because I was
suffering so badly. I needed my music. I needed songwriting,
and that was what God gave me in that moment.
And to release it in the world is wild. You know.
It's like to release what was a journal entry on
your darkest night is very vulnerable and strange and so
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real and.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Beautiful had you not been in the depths of that
darkness worrying that your daughter wouldn't make it. I mean,
two of us who have kids, especially if they're fragilematically
haven't been there.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Beautiful and painful at the same time, it can just
it's just wild.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Some of my most beautiful moments were also my most
horrifically painful moment.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yes, I mean people say that right, like it's in
the very depths of the despair and the struggle that
they can find the most connection and the most faith,
and like it can also be the time that you
feel the lowest and the most afraid, and so your
faith has to be so much bigger in those moments.
It's like I wouldn't give it up, That's what I
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realize now, Like I wouldn't take back that night, because
what I have from this song is forever soothing to
me and like comforting and to know, like, no, I'm
not alone. I'm not alone. In that moment, I thought
I was alone. I was screaming and crying, where are you?
What is going on? And I got answered with music.
And so it reminds me every time I hear it, like, Okay,
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all right, I'm not alone. I might feel alone, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I'm so proud of you. I am so proud of you.
Obviously everybody loves you, Rachel for your music, but I
am so proud of you for your heart. I'm so
proud of you for your transparency. There was no way
for you to write Mercy except for you being in
the depths of despair where you didn't oh if you
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you had it to go on right, I.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Mean, I could have never an end. And I don't
know you well, but I love you so much. I
can see how incredible you are. My God, you are
just a wonder of a human. I still to this
day after everything I've gone through, and it wasn't you know,
there's no comparing suffering because it's personal and it's relative.
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But even mine, you know that isn't anywhere near Lisa,
you had children, little three children. My God, I am
so proud of myself and I am so proud of
this woman that I am, and that I'm strong, that
I'm here for my girls. And then I stood back
up on my feet. But I still criticize myself. I'm
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still mean to myself. And we don't deserve it. We
don't deserve it. God, we're mean to ourselves.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I don't think I'm mean to myself, but I do
think I'm honest, and I recognize my character defects and
I try every day to work on them a little bit.
But I love what the person that God has created
in me. I love my stink in life. I love.
I love, you know, the artist in me. I'm not
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the best artist. I'm not the worst artist. I don't
need to compare myself to anybody's art. I like to
draw and paint and doodle and it makes me happy,
so I'm gonna do it. You know.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, I'm not very good eater, but it just brings
me joy.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, it brings me joy. And I'm not the world's
best writer. So what I like to write?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah, girl, the best and the worst. Why do we
do that? It's like the expression is for us.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
It's forging exactly, It's for joy. It's yeah, I'm loving
our time with Fight Song and Girls singer songwriter Rachel Platten.
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Speaker 2 (28:39):
I'm going to continue to roll out this music, this
deeply personal music. It is my favorite thing I've ever
done creatively, and it is a journey to release it.
And so over the next couple months they'll be more
and more and more and ramping up to something in
the spring that I haven't annown yet, but it's really exciting.
(29:02):
So yeah, if you follow me on Instagram or social
media or TikTok, I'm pretty active, even though I'm an
old lady. Really figured it out on TikTok, so proud
of myself, So follow me. I'm doing great. I'm doing
great stuff, hilarious stuff, and yeah, you can keep up
with the journey of as I release even more music.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
What message, what message do you want to share with
the world, what's coming out of your heart?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
You are okay as you are right now in this moment.
You don't have to be any other way than you are.
You don't have to be anyone else than you are.
You don't have to feel any different than you feel.
I would encourage everyone to do my practice that I
did this morning and put a hand on their heart
and just say, may I learn to accept myself exactly
as I am in this moment, because I think it's
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only from there that we can birth real self love
and then extend that love out to others.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Amen. Amen, I heard somebody yesterday.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
And go see my songs. That's the other thing I
want to do the world.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
And go listen to girls.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Go listen to girl.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Go listen to girls. Go listen to girls, and then
send it to your daughters. If you have grown daughters,
send it to your granddaughters, if you have grown granddaughters.
If your mom is still here, don't send it to
her collar and play it for.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Oh that's what you should do. Yeah, you're right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
And grab the tissue. Thank you so much, dud before
you are amazing, Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You're amazing. This was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Rachel grabs those little stars and uses them to shine
a light on the words and chords that are written
on her heart. By doing so, her message is able
to see her right through our tough exteriors and touch
us in our very core fight song.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Did that?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Oh boy? Didn't it ever become our anthem? And so
has girls. I love this song. I have eight daughters
and I love this song so much. I am ever
so grateful. You can keep up with Rachel and all
she's got going on at her website Rachelplattin dot com,
where you'll find music, shows, merchandise and more. Also check
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out our social media platforms TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and of
course YouTube. Fight Songs, Girls and a new one. Ah,
it's even better. I can't believe it's so good. It's
called Mercy. Are all available now. If the world feels
a little too much for you at times like it
does for all of us, download some of Rachel Plattin's
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songs into your Arsenal of Healing playlist. Every song is
a soothing balm for your soul. As we wrap up February,
I hope you will contemplate what it means to be love,
what that looks like for you, and put it into practice,
perhaps more regularly than you have been, Because, as the
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old tune goes, what the world needs now is Love's
sweet love. It's the only thing that there's just too little.
Love still rings true. The world will never have too
much love. Thank you for joining me once again. You
know the drill, Slow down and love someone
It is February, and while Gallantine's Day and Valentine's Day
and my birthday are behind us, love is not love
is in us. Love is around us every day in
the smallest and the most monumentous of ways. I stumbled
across to quote about love that I've shared on Facebook,
(00:26):
I've shared it in my newsletter, I've shared it on
the air. I find it so perfectly stated and inspiring.
Spend your hours being love. It begins breathing in and out,
setting beside trees and animals and good people, being love,
(00:48):
not looking for it or desiring it, being beaming, radiating,
loving the world. It's a gentle reminder that being love
is all we're called to do. It takes the pressure
off if you've been feeling pressured to do anything but
just to be, to be love in any way that
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is authentically you. Setting quietly beside trees and animals and
good people is one way. Doing it noisily in the
midst of giggling children or excited participants is another. Sharing
your gifts another Still, your heart will never feel fuller
than when you do these things today. I've got a
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guest with me. I love someone that will attest to
this truth. One of her gifts is music, and one
of her greatest gifts is making empowering music. You may
know her from her hit fight song This is My
Fight Song, released several years ago. Now that became an
overnight success. Why well, because life is not all chocolates
(01:53):
and roses. It takes grit, It takes determination, it takes courage,
it takes finding the strength thet stand up and fight.
And Rachel Platton, who's been struggling through the brambles herself,
needed an inspirational anthem, and so she wrote one. She's
often quoted as saying she didn't know if anyone else
(02:14):
would ever hear it. She didn't write it for anyone
but herself when she was at a particular low point.
But hear it and embrace it they did. We did
over and over again. And then Rachel got busy with
other little projects, like becoming a mama to her two girls,
Violet and Sophie. Along with the joys of motherhood, She's
(02:35):
been open about having to deal with postpartum depression, pandemic anxieties,
leaving her old record label finding new management. In short,
she's just like you and me. Life keeps coming the good,
the not so good, and we keep adjusting our salves
and when we can being love. Last May, she released
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Girls Meant to convey a message of strength for her
daughters and women everywhere, and in October it was re
released as a full band version. Every line, every record,
every word speaks to pure love. If you have children
or if you have a mother, you'll be moved to tears.
I know I was. Rachel says, sometimes sometimes songs feel
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like they come out of the sky like a little
star that I grab. This one came almost pre written.
It was almost like it was revealing itself as I played.
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Laurageller dot com. That it's Laurageller dot com. So Rachel Platten,
welcome to Love Someone, Delilah. You have a new song
out that we are going to delve into and talk about,
such a song that we very tired moms need right now,
and we're going to talk about girls. But before we
get into that, Yeah, I was reminded when I was
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introducing you that I heard one time you said that
you never meant for fight song to be heard by anyone,
really but yourself? Is that true? Like you didn't write
it thinking this is going to become an anthem for
folks everywhere.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You know. I think in the moment of writing it.
First of all, it's an honor to be with you.
I'm so happy to be here. But I think in
the moment of writing it, I mean, now, it was
thirteen years ago, so it's hard to remember exactly, but
I know I was in the studio and I was
just so frustrated with the music industry and how long
I'd been trying to make it quotation marks, you know,
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like just to get paid attention to. I was an
independent artist and I had been touring out of a
van for years and like selling CDs out of a suitcase.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Why do I find that hard to believe looking at you,
because you look like you're twenty two.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
That must just be the light or my new glow
serum that I have to tell you about.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Oh my god, you are glowing.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Thank you, You're so sweet. I'm excited right these days,
I'm feeling good, but I have you know, I walked
through a lot of pain to get to this light again.
And we can talk all about that, but anyway about
fight song. Yeah, So in the moment of writing it,
it was birthed from so much frustration that I didn't
feel like my career that I had been pouring everything
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into was like rewarding me in anywhere it was actually
like fruitful, and I felt like, I'm not making any money.
I'm broke. I'm living in a fifth floor walk up
apartment in New York with cockroaches of my husband.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And cockroaches and my husband. Wow, so what you.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Called the cockroaches? The boys would be like, hey, boys,
what's up.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I've lived in the same apartment, only it was in Boston.
It was the third floor walk up with my son
and the cockroaches. So I get it.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
We'll have to go through that rite of passage.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I think, wow, what a horror. You know, the night
that I really lost it, I opened up the medicine
chest to take his my son, who is like five,
his toothbrush.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You're gonna say, already, yes, I know, I know, I know.
It's so gross.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
And it was like, you know, one o'clock in the morning.
It's not like I could just run down and buy
a new toothbrush. I was like, why God, why am
I here?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh my god. We used to get We called them
the boys. He'd be like, hey boys, all right, we're home.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Scatter, please scatter. We'll drop a crumb on the floor
for you tonight.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
All right, But anyway, fights on. So that's where I was,
just to know where it was, you know, it came from.
It was just so frustrated. I thirteen years, you know,
and and finally I've just reached a breaking point one
day in the studio and I just started singing this
song like and it was for me in that moment,
it was only for me. It was so not about
anyone else. I was just like, I'm not going to
give up on myself. I still believe in myself, Like no,
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even if it's just me, I love this and I'm
going to keep going because I love music. And so yeah,
I wrote it just for me in that moment. And
then as it kind of teased itself out, if you
can believe it, After that, it took two more years
to finish writing it because I was writing it by
myself and I just couldn't figure out the right verses.
It was like I had this powerful chorus that I
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knew was life changing, for me. I could feel the
power of it, and it was almost like I was
afraid to finish it. And you know that Mary and
Williamson quote, I don't think we're afraid.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Of our failures of our successes exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I think that played a part in it. And I
was afraid of what happens when I finished this song.
I could feel the power of it in my life.
And it took two years to finish. Finally finished it,
and when I did, it was again very much for me.
But there was a sense in me like this is
going to be for the world too, and I could
feel that.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And boy, hasn't it been for the world. I cannot
tell you how many people have called me over the years, needing,
not requesting it because oh, this would be a good song.
It's like I need that right now. I need I
need the fight song. I need to hear it. I
need to get through this dark tunnel. I need to
know there's a light at the end of it. I
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don't see any light at the end of it.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
No, I can't relate enough to that feeling, first of all,
for anyone listening, like I just understand. And it's just
been so hard lately for so many of us, and
that darkness can feel so all encompassing.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I don't think Rachel, if somebody saw you, you know,
they see you on a TV show or they see you,
that they would be able to believe for a heartbeat
that you can relate to that. But I know, because
I know people that know you, that you have really
struggled to find the light some days. Is it okay
(10:04):
to talk about that?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah? Thank you so much for asking permission too. It's
so kind of you because it is hard to talk
about our hard times, and especially publicly. I understand, I know,
and I know that I smile really brightly and huge
and it's and I actually on my TikTok right now
have started to kind of address a little bit of
(10:27):
that because I have not only Girls out, but another
new song called Mercy, and these songs are talking about
very very deep trauma I went through like Girls isn't
as much but the reck of the album that I'm
a body of work that I'm rolling out, and it's
important for me for people to understand the goal that
it's grounded and something real, that it's not just me.
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You know that I'm actually reaching a hand down into
the darkness because I was there and climbed out, and
some days I'm not all the way out. And I
think it's only when we have been there that we
can really like really help another human and say, yeah,
I see you in there. But for me, I went
through a deep, deep struggle with my mental health over
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the last five years, and music really saved my life.
My songwriting really saved my life. Like, fame is so
weird and it's so unnatural, and attention after years of
not getting attention is very jarring and confusing and can
really feed a part of you that like, let's say,
there's you know, the part of me that communes with
God and receives songs that heal me. That is not
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a part of me that is looking for attention or
fame or anything. That's a very pure I look at
it like my inner artist and like, you know, she's
purely opening herself up to God for healing and music. Right.
But then what gets so confusing is once you get
attention for it, another part of you co ops it
and says and all of a sudden you're like, wait,
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that's not the part, that's not why we're doing this,
But like that that ego part, the fame part, you know,
like the one that wants the attention. Little miss perfect
I call her in my mind, you know, like she
all of a sudden's like, oh, this is all about me.
I'm the reason.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, I I the little miss me. The little miss
perfect me would have destroyed my life, That little miss
perfect me, that show off that I was born to be.
I'm to show off you two. Yeah, of course I
have the part of me.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Of course, look at me. I'm doing everything right and
I and the more I've exploreded and therapy, you know,
I've learned that it really comes from a place of
feeling not enough. Like it's not from feeling too much
or better than anyone. I think for all of us.
That comes from a place of how do I get love?
Like how do I feel special enough to be loved
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and be beyond reproach and like and how do I
how am I okay in the world. That's what I've learned,
And so I have a lot more race and love
for that part of me now of like oh baby, yeah,
you're just a little kid who thinks you're not enough,
like mere me love you.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, So that's where that's where girls hits right in
the fields.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I'm so glad. I thank you so much for that,
and I I'm so proud to have it out there.
I wrote it for my daughters, obviously, but as I
was writing it, I really did realize that it was
for me too, you know. I realized like it was
for the inner Rachel that we were talking about that,
you know, and it was what I wish for myself
as much as it was what I wish for my girls,
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like maybe wild and free and the you know, wind
of your back and your world to your feet. Like gosh,
how many of us need to hear that permission from
a mama figure from ourselves right now? Like you can
do anything. You're okay in this world, take up space,
go make some noise, don't apologize, you know, go after
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your big dreams. Life hurts, You're gonna cry, You're gonna
feel your feelings, but you have permission to feel them.
It was just everything I want my girls to know
in the world.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
And how old are your girls now?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
They are two and four? Oh wait, actually my four
year old just turned five three days ago, So two
and five.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Two and five. Oh what fun fun fun stages, fun
age I'm so sorry, you're you're You're girls are the
same age as my granddaughters, and my daughter is so tired.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Oh god, it is so hard, and I want to
like hug every mama. I just want to hug every
MoMA everywhere.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Sometimes I'm at the grocery store and I see moms,
you know, doing the mom rock with a kid on
the hip, and I start rocking with them, like intuitively,
I don't know, it's just weird, and I just want
to go over and give them a hug and say
you are doing such a good job. And then I'm like,
that is so freaky weird, Delilah, they would they would call.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
What they need to hear. Honestly, if someone came up
to me, I think it's happened to me once before,
Like someone came up to me not knowing who I
was or whatever and just saw a tired mom with
a newborn and a two year old and was just like,
you're doing great, and it was so sweet. So I
try to do that now to other random moms and like, job,
they probably think I'm weird.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
But I don't know, that's okay, that's nice.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
You're it because we are doing such a good job,
and it is so freaking hard, and it is so
thankless sometimes, and like you're so confused. You don't ever
know if you're doing a good job until the very end.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, until you know, and even there you don't know.
So where did you grow up?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I grew up in Boston. What part Newton, Massachusetts, A
couple miles outside of Boston.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So my cockroach experience was one block from Fenway stop. Yeah,
one box stop, no no way, Hey high God, Delia,
Oh yeah, my god, Delilah, you've been to Mike's to
get a canola laid lea oh.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Good, so good an accent that I love.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
So while you were growing up in Boston, I was
in Boston.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
One of the fine I love the grounded, you know,
East Coast noess. I living in LA I sometimes missed
the the just directness.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Of So my producer and longtime friend Janie is from Boston,
and like I was there probably three or four months,
and I said I need to go home. Nobody here
likes me.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Everybody's so.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And She's like, here's the thing. Once they like you,
once they love you, they love you forever. But it's
just breaking forever. You just got to get through. That's
that tough New England.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
No, it's not fake. It's not like it doesn't have
the southern charm that sometimes I prefer to be honest,
like I just be nice and even if you're being fake,
like that's fine with me. But now I but I
appreciate it, you know. Now I get getting older and
learning to be more authentic myself and authentic with my
own feelings and like not as much trying to do
the people pleasing thing as I work through.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
New Englanders are very authentic. They tell you like it is. Yeah. Yeah,
So tell me about the sweet little lady that lives
next door to you that I've been stocky you on
your little videos.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Oh my god, she's so cute.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
And she's so cute. What is she like? One hundred
and ten, she's one hundred.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
She's turned one hundred in August and she's I know
her birthday August thirtieth, because my due date for Sophie
was actually on Gloria's birthday and she was very excited
about that. But yeah, Gloria is a neighbor of mine.
She actually lives, like, you know, a couple streets away,
and she is a friend she's become a friend of mine,
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and she is just the most favacious, adorable, feisty, smart,
incredible woman. She's so talented. She was a piano player,
a classically trained former professional pianist, and she was an
accompany mist company what is that word?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I don't know, the person who plays with you?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And she toured around the world and so we met
my dog. I was during the pandemic. My dog went
to the bathroom on her lawn and I just was
felt too bad. I could tell it was an old
lady's house. And I knocked on the door and I
was like, I'm so sorry, it's scary, but my dog
pooped on your law and do you have a plastic bag?
I could use it?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
So lonely, like I think, she was just like, oh
my god, like forget about the poop. Let's hang out
and and I was lonely. I was like, definitely I have.
I had, you know, a two year old at the time.
I was like yeah, And so we just talked a
little bit. She told me she was a musician too,
and she asked if she could play piano for me.
And I sat outside safely.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And she played the most beautiful piano, and I filmed
it as it was happening because I was like, oh
my god, this is incredible. You guys have to hear.
And it went very viral. So funny, like all the
things that we try to do as artists to get attention,
it's never that thing.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
It's never that thing. It's like the one, the one viral,
the video of mine that went viral was my horse
playing in the mud. Yeah. Yeah, I was riding my
horse and my horse decided they wanted to splash in
the mind and I hopped off and the horse played
in the mud and splashed and had a blast, and
that went Virals.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Played it out. That's so cute.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Like I spend hours putting words over images, and why
I know.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I know, same same. I'm like, listen to my song
and they're like, well, why don't we just listen to
your neighbor.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, let's listen to Gloria.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Don't believe, but she deserves it, to be honest, And
so after that we we just became friends, not because
of the viral video, because I was missing my grandmother
and she my grandmother. As we talked about earlier, Nana
had been one of my best friends in the world.
I loved her more than anything. Gloria was exactly the
age my nana would have been, so I felt a
kinship and like love. I kind of felt like my
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nana was almost, you know, giving me a little substitute grandma.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
A little gift.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah. And we became friends and I'd bring my daughter over.
And she actually told me that I should have another
baby when I was in the middle of writing music
that I was in love with, and I was like
very happy about it, but also feeling like a little
duck and She's like, oh, have another kid. And I
was like, Gloria, no, Like I was so pissed. I
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was like, oh, leave me alone, Like back off, you
sound like my mom or my grandma.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I try so hard not to nag my kids for
more grand babies. I really try it hard, I know,
but it's hard because there's so hard.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I mean, she she had the distance to see me
and be like, sweetheart, this is what it's actually going
to fulfill you right now is creating your family and
being done and like doing that, you know, and giving
yourself to that you're in. It's hard when you're in
the middle of it and you're like halfway through you
have a kid, and then you're like, all right, I'm
gonna get back out there again. You can't really get
back out there because the clock is ticking if you.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Want TikTok, TikTok.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Life is just so hard. We're all just doing our best,
you know. Man. Like it's sometimes the thing that helps
me the most is understanding that it's not supposed to
just be good, Like when I can really just allow
myself to be like it is supposed to be the
ups and downs. It's not just supposed to be happy.
Like who told us that it's just supposed to be joyful.
That's crazy. That's not what we're here for. We're here
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to learn and grow and get closer to you know,
our hearts. And in my life, like I want big
experiences and when you take big swings, you have big
highs and big lows and like it's part of it.
I know. Sometimes when I'm struggling with mental health, I'm like,
I know what God does with me. He plants me
so deep so that my roots can grow so deep
so that when I bloat, when I bloom, it can
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be so tall and beautiful and bright and like, but
it is painful to get taken so low so that
you can go high. It's hard.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So tell me about this Mercy project. Whoo, because I'm
talking about God and our roots going deep. Tell me
about this this Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
So I have a brand new song out called Mercy.
Honestly talking about Mercy brings me so much joy. It
is the thing that I am maybe most proud of,
and have been most proud of since Fight Song. It
is Oh my God, Dee, I'm gonna call you. It
is my soul's cry out to God. When I was
(22:04):
in the hardest point I've ever been in my life.
I was alone in the middle of my middle of
the night in my studio. My daughter had one hundred
and five fever. I was struggling with postpartum depression very severely.
It was terrifying. We were in the hospital. Blah blah blah.
I got home that night and I just threw my
hands against the floor on the piano, like I'm done.
(22:24):
I cannot take anymore enough, Mercy, I surrender. Something has
got to give. I can't handle this pain anymore. It's
too much. And what came out of me after that
was so ironically like joyful. It was wild. It was
like it was painful but joyful. It was life, you know,
(22:46):
it was like holding all of it. It was this
cry of pain and hope and sadness and joy and
all of it. And I was just like wailing on
the piano and what came out in literally twenty minutes
was a song that I am so incredibly in love with,
Like as the writer of it, I'm so proud of it.
And it was just for me, Like talk about being
(23:07):
just for me, that there was no one else in
my mind that mattered in that moment because I was
suffering so badly. I needed my music. I needed songwriting,
and that was what God gave me in that moment.
And to release it in the world is wild. You know.
It's like to release what was a journal entry on
your darkest night is very vulnerable and strange and so
(23:29):
real and.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Beautiful had you not been in the depths of that
darkness worrying that your daughter wouldn't make it. I mean,
two of us who have kids, especially if they're fragilematically
haven't been there.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Beautiful and painful at the same time, it can just
it's just wild.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Some of my most beautiful moments were also my most
horrifically painful moment.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yes, I mean people say that right, like it's in
the very depths of the despair and the struggle that
they can find the most connection and the most faith,
and like it can also be the time that you
feel the lowest and the most afraid, and so your
faith has to be so much bigger in those moments.
It's like I wouldn't give it up, That's what I
(24:12):
realize now, Like I wouldn't take back that night, because
what I have from this song is forever soothing to
me and like comforting and to know, like, no, I'm
not alone. I'm not alone. In that moment, I thought
I was alone. I was screaming and crying, where are you?
What is going on? And I got answered with music.
And so it reminds me every time I hear it, like, Okay,
(24:34):
all right, I'm not alone. I might feel alone, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I'm so proud of you. I am so proud of you.
Obviously everybody loves you, Rachel for your music, but I
am so proud of you for your heart. I'm so
proud of you for your transparency. There was no way
for you to write Mercy except for you being in
the depths of despair where you didn't oh if you
(25:00):
you had it to go on right, I.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Mean, I could have never an end. And I don't
know you well, but I love you so much. I
can see how incredible you are. My God, you are
just a wonder of a human. I still to this
day after everything I've gone through, and it wasn't you know,
there's no comparing suffering because it's personal and it's relative.
(25:25):
But even mine, you know that isn't anywhere near Lisa,
you had children, little three children. My God, I am
so proud of myself and I am so proud of
this woman that I am, and that I'm strong, that
I'm here for my girls. And then I stood back
up on my feet. But I still criticize myself. I'm
(25:47):
still mean to myself. And we don't deserve it. We
don't deserve it. God, we're mean to ourselves.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I don't think I'm mean to myself, but I do
think I'm honest, and I recognize my character defects and
I try every day to work on them a little bit.
But I love what the person that God has created
in me. I love my stink in life. I love.
I love, you know, the artist in me. I'm not
(26:13):
the best artist. I'm not the worst artist. I don't
need to compare myself to anybody's art. I like to
draw and paint and doodle and it makes me happy,
so I'm gonna do it. You know.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, I'm not very good eater, but it just brings
me joy.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, it brings me joy. And I'm not the world's
best writer. So what I like to write?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah, girl, the best and the worst. Why do we
do that? It's like the expression is for us.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
It's forging exactly, It's for joy. It's yeah, I'm loving
our time with Fight Song and Girls singer songwriter Rachel Platten.
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is next for you?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I'm going to continue to roll out this music, this
deeply personal music. It is my favorite thing I've ever
done creatively, and it is a journey to release it.
And so over the next couple months they'll be more
and more and more and ramping up to something in
the spring that I haven't annown yet, but it's really exciting.
(29:02):
So yeah, if you follow me on Instagram or social
media or TikTok, I'm pretty active, even though I'm an
old lady. Really figured it out on TikTok, so proud
of myself, So follow me. I'm doing great. I'm doing
great stuff, hilarious stuff, and yeah, you can keep up
with the journey of as I release even more music.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
What message, what message do you want to share with
the world, what's coming out of your heart?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
You are okay as you are right now in this moment.
You don't have to be any other way than you are.
You don't have to be anyone else than you are.
You don't have to feel any different than you feel.
I would encourage everyone to do my practice that I
did this morning and put a hand on their heart
and just say, may I learn to accept myself exactly
as I am in this moment, because I think it's
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only from there that we can birth real self love
and then extend that love out to others.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Amen. Amen, I heard somebody yesterday.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
And go see my songs. That's the other thing I
want to do the world.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
And go listen to girls.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Go listen to girl.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Go listen to girls. Go listen to girls, and then
send it to your daughters. If you have grown daughters,
send it to your granddaughters, if you have grown granddaughters.
If your mom is still here, don't send it to
her collar and play it for.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Oh that's what you should do. Yeah, you're right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
And grab the tissue. Thank you so much, dud before
you are amazing, Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You're amazing. This was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Rachel grabs those little stars and uses them to shine
a light on the words and chords that are written
on her heart. By doing so, her message is able
to see her right through our tough exteriors and touch
us in our very core fight song.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Did that?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Oh boy? Didn't it ever become our anthem? And so
has girls. I love this song. I have eight daughters
and I love this song so much. I am ever
so grateful. You can keep up with Rachel and all
she's got going on at her website Rachelplattin dot com,
where you'll find music, shows, merchandise and more. Also check
(31:17):
out our social media platforms TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and of
course YouTube. Fight Songs, Girls and a new one. Ah,
it's even better. I can't believe it's so good. It's
called Mercy. Are all available now. If the world feels
a little too much for you at times like it
does for all of us, download some of Rachel Plattin's
(31:39):
songs into your Arsenal of Healing playlist. Every song is
a soothing balm for your soul. As we wrap up February,
I hope you will contemplate what it means to be love,
what that looks like for you, and put it into practice,
perhaps more regularly than you have been, Because, as the
(32:00):
old tune goes, what the world needs now is Love's
sweet love. It's the only thing that there's just too little.
Love still rings true. The world will never have too
much love. Thank you for joining me once again. You
know the drill, Slow down and love someone
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