April 23, 2024 • 31 mins
Jonathan Harounoff, (HAIR -UN -OFF) holds an M.S. from Columbia Journalism School, and completed graduate studies in journalism, diplomacy and international relations at Harvard University and Daniella Greenbaum Davis is a Jewish-American writer, content creator, and Emmy-award winning producer, formerly with The View, discuss the level of violence being waged by pro-Hamas protestors, attacking Jewish students and threatening their lives. Columbia instead of fighting back, tells everyone to attend class virtually.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, thank you, Scott Chad An hour two Sean
Hannity's Show, eight hundred and ninety four one Seawan if
you want to be a part of the program, Well,
we've been watching, we've been witnessing in shock, frankly, in horror.
If you have a conscience, if you have a soul,
of all of the insanity and madness that's been happening
all around Ivy League universities around the country, and it's
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gotten so bad that the president of Columbia, who wouldn't
ban you know, from the river to the sea, has
had to close down the university on top of a
rabbi in New York saying if you are Jewish, do
not go into Columbia University. And the things they are
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chanting are equally as repulsive and disgusting. Let me place
some of what we've heard, and that is the you know,
October seventh will be every day we have a confrontation
of Jewish students at Columbia University to push them out
of out of the camp. Other pro pales Didian quote
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protesters shouting all you do is colonize, f you go
back to poland stop killing children, and oh hamas oh love,
one strike Tel Aviv and Arabic.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
It's all on tape. We have it all. Listen, remember
the seventh of October.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Remember bring out the seventh of October seven more time,
not five more times, not ten more times, not a
hundred more times, not a thousand more time.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Read Yet we.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Aren't going to and you're asking me not to record,
walk and take us that former absolutely so that we
can start to push that.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Out of the camp.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
One step forward, one step, another step forward. We ask statue,
please respects our privacy in our community guidelines which you
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have so far disrespected, which you have and leave our
camp one step forward.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You guys don't have to do this. You know you're
all here because we're here. Why are you giving you
We weren't here before you came here.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I understand that, but you're doing good after me.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I'm board. We would like you to leave.
Speaker 7 (02:48):
We would you.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Joining us now. Jonathan Heronoff holds an MS degree from
Columbia and Their School of Journalism, and completed graduate studies
in journalism, UH and diplomacy and international relations at Harvard University.
They've had their own problems. Daniella Greenbound Davis a Jewish
American writer and content creator, Emmy Award winning producer uh
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formerly by the way, with that ABC hit show of
the View apparently. Anyway, thank you both for being with us.
These are really sad times. And I'll start with you, Jonathan,
because you've gone to the universities and where all of
this is unfolding, all of this hatred is on display,
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I've got to imagine it shocks you to your core.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Not only is it shocking, it's almost unthinkable. This is
twenty twenty four. We're talking about New York City, the
city with the largest Jewish population in the world outside
of Israel. And the scenes that we've been seeing since
last Wednesday and also before President Chaffig's hearing have been
absolutely atrocious and I am appalled to see in all
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of these disgusting scenes, and so much more needs to
be done by the administration. Clearly, the hearing and all
the commitments were not enough, and there needs to be
now an emergency hearing, and concrete steps need to be
taken to ensure that Jewish students feel safe to go
back to university. Telling them to flee is not a solution.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Well, then we have at Yale and I'll ask you this, Danielle.
You have a Jewish Shale University student journalist reporting on
this anti Israeli protest on their campus. This was actually
on Saturday night, was stabbed in the eye with a
Palestinian flag, while her assailant has gone unpunished. But anyway,
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she's the editor in chief of the Yale Free Press.
So much for free which saw hundreds of students camping
on campus in support of the Palestinians. They say, what
I'd like to understand is I thought these campuses, we
often talked about them being woke and politically incorrect. I
thought on college campuses that slanted so solidly left.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
If you use the.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Wrong pronoun, I mean you risked being kicked out of
the school. And here you have chanting of from the
river to the sea and virulent, repulsive anti Semitic comments
and pro Hamas comments made on a regular basis. You
know what part of what happened on October seventh? Have
all of these these Ivy League students forgotten? I'm trying
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to understand over twelve hundred Israelis killed, hundreds more that
have been taking and kidnapped. You have babies on video decapitated.
You have women being raped left, right and all over
the place and them telling their heart harrowing stories. What
part of this, you know, how was their moral compass
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that far off?
Speaker 7 (06:41):
Look, I think you raise a devastating point, which is
that for everybody except Jews, all of these campuses have
such strict guidelines and rules of what you can and
can't say. I was a student on Columbia's campus ten
years ago, and already then, I mean, you really couldn't
say anything. It was, you know, safe space. Put a
correctness at the La Zoo. And now from the river
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to the sea is the least of our problems. I mean,
the calls that are happening on campus are globalized, the Antifada.
We want the antifada. Now you have students holding up
signs that say Al Cassam's next target, Al Kasam is
Kmasa's military brigade. So I mean from the river to
the sea is the least of our problems. There's very
very clear, overt direct calls for violence, not in the
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Middle East, but actually on campus.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I'd like to understand why this this campus president, these
campus presidents I should say plural, because it's happening everywhere.
Why haven't they taken the stand that if you, if
you are acting this way, and if you're trying to
shut down the campus and if you are hostile to
other students, you will be thrown out of school.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
What what? What? What am I missing here?
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Because what's crazy is it's not just that they're not
throwing kids out of school, it's that Chefik, for example,
the president Columbia, she's not doing anything that she could do.
For example, Mayor Adams made it very clear last night
in statements and posts to Twitter that he would love
to be sending the NYPD to Colombia's campus because there
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are actually threats of violence and there are actually things
that could be doing to be keeping Jewish students safe.
And he made it very clear in his statement that
because Colombia is a private university and it's obviously privately held,
he can't deploy the NYPD there unless Shabik says that
they should come, which she is so far refusing to do.
And today she not only canceled classes and said that
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they would be held by Zoom, but also said she's
looking to compromise with the so called protesters and that
she's hoping to find a common ground with them. So
I think it's.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, how do you find common ground with virulent anti Semitism?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Can you tell me whether you know where is the
common ground? There?
Speaker 7 (08:53):
Not going to be anywhere good for the Jews, I'll
tell you that much.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, let me go back to Jonathan. You have a
prominent r at Columbia warning Jewish students to go home.
This was yesterday and do not return to campus.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Their opportunity, they're learning opportunity has been taken away from them.
And here's what's really scary. We've heard, you know, virulent,
repulsive anti semitism in the halls of Congress. We see
it all over college campuses around the country, many of
the top universities in our country, you know, universities where
parents would be so happy to learn that their kid
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was accepted into an Ivy League school, only to enter
this environment. Never mind a woke environment, never mind. You know, no,
there's no fostering of the free and open exchange of ideas, ideals,
and opinions, an environment where often conservatives are shouted down
and shut up and told not to speak. I'm just
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trying to understand if their opportunity to learn is being
ripped away from them, and they don't feel safe at
these universities. They have a not only a moral obligation,
they they have a legal obligation to make sure every
student is safe. And that's not the conditions that exist
now on these college campuses.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
That's absolutely right. They absolutely have an obligation to do so,
and they have not been able to keep the students safe,
neither the Columbia's Public Safety nor with the help of
the NYPD. And not only is this going to cause
huge concerns for current students, but it's also going to
create doubt for parents of prospective students. They're going to
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think twice even five times before sending their kids to Harvard, Columbia, Yale,
or other Ivy League schools. Above all else, these parents
will want to know that their child is safe at school,
and that to guarantee that many of these schools cannot
keep today.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
Frankly, I think it's wrong to assume that if America
were attacked, these students wouldn't be at least somewhat happy
about that, some of them, because many of them are
protesting against American flags as well. And it's clear that
they're neither happy with the United States or Israel at
the moment in time. But to the broader point, I
don't think this is about October seventh, but these students,
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I don't think this is about the current war. For
these students. This has a conversation that's been happening on campus,
and specifically Colombia's campus, for more than twenty years.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Exactly why I take issue with you when you hear
Prohamas agitators at Columbia screaming Jews, Jews go back to Poland.
I'm sorry, but that is about as anti semitic as
you can be.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
Oh, I don't disagree. I don't think this isn't anti semitic.
I'm saying it goes further. I think this isn't just
about October seventh. I think this conversation has been happening
on Columbia's campus by these kinds of protesters for more
than twenty years. And the exact investment language that they're
suggesting of Colombia's portfolio shouldn't be invested in any company
that dares to be invested in Israel. It's something that's
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been going on long before the actions of October seventh
and the war that's followed.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
All right, quick break right back more with Jonathan Heronoff
and Daniello Greenbound Davis. We'll get to your calls on
the other side. Eight hundred and nine four one Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program ify,
we antinue the situation unfolding on these Ivy League institution
campuses now around the country. It is not safe for
kids to go to even Columbia or Yale in this environment.
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I never thought i'd see this in our time. But
we continue with Jonathan Heronoff and Daniello Greenbound Davis is
with us. Here's what the saddest part of all this
is when you enter the political arena is Joe Biden
has been trying to lecture and tell Israel to withdraw
in their battle, their fight against terrorism. This was the
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worst terror attack in their history, and he's now taken
it a step further after Iran fired all of these
missiles for the first time towards Israel, and Israel thankfully
was able to intercept ninety nine percent of them. What
did the President of the United States say? Hell, he
was pressuring Israel to show restraint. My answer is if
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you are attacked, you must show strength and you must
defeat those that would would that are seeking to destroy
you and kill you.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Am I wrong, Jonathan?
Speaker 6 (13:09):
What I'll say Sean is that you know that the
situation is bad on campus.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You're trying to thread the needle. I asked you a
very specific question. If a country is attacked with missiles
that are designed to wipe out your population, is it
not the wisest thing to do but to understand that
they are a real, clear present danger to your existence.
People that have in their written charter to destroy you shouldn't.
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Shouldn't America support their right to self determination and self defense.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
I think you have a moral obligation as a nation
to defend your people, especially when you're under existential threats,
and that is something that has become very apparent since
Oclober seventh, and Israel has rightly said that it's defending
its people against the threat of kamos hezbolo and most
recently directly Islamic cobod because we're wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well, will this impact I mean, we break everything down
and polls demographically. Do you believe Daniello, this whole impact
the Jewish American vote?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Come November fifth, I do.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
I mean, historically American Jews are overwhelmingly Democratic, and I
think that trend will largely continue. But you know, just anecdotally,
I can tell you some of the most liberal Jews
that I know are feeling detached from the Democratic Party.
That said, I think there's a bit more complexity to
the Biden situation. I can tell you I've been to
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Israel five times ince October seventh, and every Israeli I
speak to, including the most right wing Israeli Israeli as
I speak to, only have overwhelming gratitude for the Biden administration.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Now.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
They don't love everything he says and some of the things.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Let me tell you something, I've been friends with Prime
Minister Natanyeho for over thirty years. Uh, that is the
exact opposite of what I'm hearing from my friends in Israel.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
I can only speak to my own experience.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Jean Kay, appreciate your time. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
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Speaker 1 (15:31):
Al right, twenty five to the top of the hour.
Your calls coming up, eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program,
all right, let me play. There is one Democrat that
has been speaking out and I deserve to tip my
hat to him. He's earned it. He's been very outspoken
about this situation with Israel, and that is John Fetterman, Yes,
that John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, the Senator from Pennsylvania, and
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talking about how crazy it is that there are Democrats
that will not condemn Iran and referring to protesters that
are out there with their bullhorns and yelling at people
in public places as well the a holes that they are.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Listen.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
I am not going to be in a position to
tell Israel what I should should do. That that's their choice,
and I certainly hope none of this escalates and turns
into a more widespread but I will say is that
I'm always going to choose I would want to follow
Israel on that that's our key ally, our special relationship,
and they're surrounded by nations that underwrite terrorism and all
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of those things, and I was appalled that there were
members of our party, Democrats, that can't even condemn Iran.
And that's that's crazy. It's completely reasonable to want to
cease fire or to have a different view on that.
Absolutely that's the democracy, but it is not appropriate or
illegal or it's helpful to advance your argument. If you
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show up in Starbucks, I mean the Starbucks with a
bullhorn and start yelling at people, and that doesn't make
you noble, it just makes you. It's very American to protest,
and to do that in the appropriate way, then I
absolutely support that. I'm not suggesting that you have to
agree with my view, but it's just saying it doesn't
really allow you to disrupt lives and to inflict those
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kinds of damages on people that are just trying to
get on with their lives.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Got it, sit my hat. He's the only one.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
And now Joe Biden is beholden to all of them,
and this now will be on the ballot. Joe Biden
has abandoned any any real moral support that he should
be giving Israel because all of these crazy people that
have been out there protesting and are continuing to protest,
those that are threatening Jewish students on college campuses, those
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that basically are offering aiding and a betting and comforting
those people responsible for the terror attacks, the worst terror
attack at Israel's history. I got to give them a
lot of credit because it's not safe for them anymore.
And I didn't think we'd see this in our lifetime,
but it's unfolding right before our eyes. It's been unfolding
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all day, all weekend. Anyway, to our phone as we
go ed North Carolina, You're on the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 10 (18:21):
Hi, Hey, Shaan, how are you? I was. I'm just
thinking a different take on this thing about these folks
on campuses that have gotten into this following. It seems
more like it might be possibly sort of a cult
like thing. I mean, you know, in the seventies you
had these phenomenon like the Jim Jones thing, a thousand people,
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thirteen hundred people, you know, taking kool aid in mass
suicide down in Guyana. But now with social media, people
are so segmented from their traditional mechanisms of getting information,
you know, usually through family and friend and I guess
churches and wherever they socialize, they get into this situation
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where they're so lonely, and then this group comes along
and it's only about ten percent of them that knows
the truth. I mean when you look at these organizations
that influence this thinking, the other ninety percent just like
I'm a part of something. I feel like I feel
like I'm in something and I'm making a difference. But
they don't understand. And to illustrate, if you just simplicate
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one little sliver of that community, the LGBT community, about
ninety five percent of them are on board with this.
They're like, oh yes, oh yes, We've got to be
a part of this. We've got to be a part
of this. You know, Death to Israel, Long live hamas well.
The fact that matter is is if they stop and
just look at it, Israelis would welcome them as a
community more with open arms than habas Wood. So it's
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in their own that they don't even have their own
interest in mind. They're just part of something.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Look at the attack by I wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Now you're raising a good point because you're bringing up
human rights abuses. What did they just have in the
last week in Iran? Another crackdown on any woman that
is not wearing the hajab that does not cover up
in public. Uh, what do they do if you're discovered
to be a gay or lesbian in Iran? They'll they'll
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put you up at the top of a building and
they'll murder you. And and there's there's so many paradoxes here.
If you think of these college campuses and what they
have evolved into, especially in recent years, these these woke
havens for you know, juvenile delinquents and and and look
at the trouble you would get into in any one
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of these college campuses if if God forbid, you use
the wrong pronoun, you know how many people would be
triggered by that, Or if you expressed expressed an opinion that, well,
I think people are either born men or they're born women.
That would be controversial on most campuses today. But they
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say they're for women's rights, they say they're for gays
gay rights. They say there for free and open debate
and dialogue. But conservatives are not welcome on most of
these college campuses. And now you look at why are
they turning a blind eye to the slaughter of October
the seventh and offering comfort and aid to the enemy
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and the people that put empower the people that were
responsible for that. Why are they not in favor of
Israel's right to self determination and supporting their right to
live free and have a safe, secure country and not
have to live under constant, never ending rocket fire. Why
are they fighting for their kids to have the right
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to play outdoors and get a little bit of vitamin
D and neighboring you know, border towns likes that are
where I was, where kids have to play in underground
bunker playgrounds. That city alone had gotten hit with ten
thousand rockets in ten years by the time I went
to it. You know, why are we not looking at
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the fact that Hamas took all the aid money that
the world had said, including American tax dollars and Israeli
tax dollars to build hospitals and schools, and they build
terror tunnels instead. You know, how what has gone wrong
with their moral compass that they're that far out of
balance and that you know, where's this hatred coming from,
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this repulse of anti Semitism coming from. I don't know
the answer to it. It's puzzling to me, but it's
actually scary because the numbers are much larger than I
would have ever dreamed of.
Speaker 10 (22:43):
They just don't they don't know the fact. I don't
know any other way to say it other than if
you ask any of those people a series of questions
just on the facts, and you don't give it a
political slant. You don't say it's Republican or Democrat, or
Israeli or Hamas. I mean, it's just unbelievable that they
don't have a grasp of knowledge. And some are coming
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around Bill Maher Fetterman, They're starting to realize, wait a minute,
this is this is crazy. This crazy group think has
gotten things way out of whack. And yeah itself with
just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, well, I gotta tell you. I mean, it literally
raises a lot of questions. And I will tell you
these are the people that Joe Biden cannot criticize. These
this this is a part of the democratic coalition, the
Democratic base, and that has now caused the President of
the United States to abandon our closest ally in a
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battle against radical Islamic terrorists. And think of how profound
that is, putting his own blind, personal political ambition above
what is morally right. And it's not a difficult call.
Appreciate the call, my friend ed thank you all right,
quick break right back to our phones. Eight hundred and
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Speaker 4 (25:39):
How you doing, Sean? I'm gonna circle around and move
into this travesty that is the Donald Trump siasco going
on here in New York. And I wanted to call
you because you made some good points the other day
on Friday about what is the record that New Yorkers
(26:02):
have in regards to putting this this fiasco to an end?
And you know, I did some reading on it, and
we really have no recourse. You can't really stop the
da from you know, until there is some sort of
an indictment and then you have an appeal. But I
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was thinking about where's Jim Jordan and where's the Judiciary
committee to bring in Latisha James, who the DA who
has already expressed personal bias towards.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I mean, let's say the Attorney General of New York
actually went into court today and the issue was the
Remember the bond was like over five hundred, you know,
million dollars, which is insane considering the case we're talking about.
Remember the judge in the case and Goren, this case
was supposed to be about valuations, even though a disclaimer
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said don't listen to our valuations. You have a fiduciary
responsibility to do your own valuations, and then went ahead
and valued mar Lago, which is close to a billion
dollar property, if not more, and stuck to a valuation
of eighteen million dollars, which was obscene. Judge in Goren,
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this case was resolved by summary judgment. They didn't have
a they didn't even have a jury trial in this case.
He just said you lose. Now we're going to go
right to the penalty phase. And it was so obvious
how prejudiced and how political the judge was. And the
Attorney General ran on a platform to get one man Trump,
one organization, the Trump organization, and you know one family,
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the Trump family, and they succeeded to a point. Now
in the criminal trial, you have a more complicated issue
that's going to unfold. Well, let's let's assume that I'm
right that Donald Trump can't get a fair hearing in
New York City, a very liberal venue. You very few
people voted from there, and the guilty verdict comes back.
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But he has very good he has a lot of
arguments already that he would appeal to the any verdict,
not the least of which is the judge should have
recused himself and I believe an unconstitutional gag order. Okay, Now,
when is that going to be determined? Because if you're
going to have the guilty verdict and then the appeal
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comes back sometime after the election, how is that not
election interference? Tell about to Bob McDonald, Rob McDonald, the
former governor of Virginia, Right, you get the last word.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Yeah, I agree, I'm I know. For me and a
lot of folks here in New York, we've been looking
at ways where that this trial should not even be
allowed to go on. And we're looking at what are
the possibilities of there being a class action lawsuit against
Letitia James for misusing public funds for prosecution?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Why do you think that any Why do you think
that would be possible in a state that has gotten
so hardcore left wing? Why do you think there would
be justice? I don't believe it would happen.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yeah, because you know, I listen, one must have faith,
and there are enough people who are who are still
not I don't know, affected by this sort of woke
idealism that's persuasive here in New York, but there has
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to be I'm still wondering why Jim Jordan has not
used his powers on the Judiciary Committee to at least
have Letitia James come to d C and explain. How
are we supposed to respect what she is saying and
take it as truth when she's already expressed biased. It's
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already biased at the top. And if I'm not mistaken,
yesterday one of the attorneys that you had on said
that they can't even identify Brad won't even identify the
underlying charge. So it smells and it's you know, it's
the Other thing I would say is the narrative. I
don't think it's about that it's Donald Trump anymore. I
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think the narrative needs to change that it's an American
citizen that is really being wrongfully accused, and you know,
on behest of a political party who was weaponized the
justice system. You know, I wish there was a way to.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Imagine, just for a second, if the shoe were on
the other foot, what would the left in this country
be doing, how would they be reacting, what would they
be saying? Anyway, David, appreciate a good call, my friend,
eight hundred and nine to four one Sean if you
want to be a part of the program. Okay, are
you feeling the impact of recent changes in the timeshare industry?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
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All right, thank you, Scott Chad An hour two Sean
Hannity's Show, eight hundred and ninety four one Seawan if
you want to be a part of the program, Well,
we've been watching, we've been witnessing in shock, frankly, in horror.
If you have a conscience, if you have a soul,
of all of the insanity and madness that's been happening
all around Ivy League universities around the country, and it's
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gotten so bad that the president of Columbia, who wouldn't
ban you know, from the river to the sea, has
had to close down the university on top of a
rabbi in New York saying if you are Jewish, do
not go into Columbia University. And the things they are
(00:43):
chanting are equally as repulsive and disgusting. Let me place
some of what we've heard, and that is the you know,
October seventh will be every day we have a confrontation
of Jewish students at Columbia University to push them out
of out of the camp. Other pro pales Didian quote
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protesters shouting all you do is colonize, f you go
back to poland stop killing children, and oh hamas oh love,
one strike Tel Aviv and Arabic.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
It's all on tape. We have it all. Listen, remember
the seventh of October.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Remember bring out the seventh of October seven more time,
not five more times, not ten more times, not a
hundred more times, not a thousand more time.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Read Yet we.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Aren't going to and you're asking me not to record,
walk and take us that former absolutely so that we
can start to push that.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Out of the camp.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
One step forward, one step, another step forward. We ask statue,
please respects our privacy in our community guidelines which you
(02:20):
have so far disrespected, which you have and leave our
camp one step forward.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You guys don't have to do this. You know you're
all here because we're here. Why are you giving you
We weren't here before you came here.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I understand that, but you're doing good after me.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I'm board. We would like you to leave.
Speaker 7 (02:48):
We would you.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Joining us now. Jonathan Heronoff holds an MS degree from
Columbia and Their School of Journalism, and completed graduate studies
in journalism, UH and diplomacy and international relations at Harvard University.
They've had their own problems. Daniella Greenbound Davis a Jewish
American writer and content creator, Emmy Award winning producer uh
(03:55):
formerly by the way, with that ABC hit show of
the View apparently. Anyway, thank you both for being with us.
These are really sad times. And I'll start with you, Jonathan,
because you've gone to the universities and where all of
this is unfolding, all of this hatred is on display,
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I've got to imagine it shocks you to your core.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Not only is it shocking, it's almost unthinkable. This is
twenty twenty four. We're talking about New York City, the
city with the largest Jewish population in the world outside
of Israel. And the scenes that we've been seeing since
last Wednesday and also before President Chaffig's hearing have been
absolutely atrocious and I am appalled to see in all
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of these disgusting scenes, and so much more needs to
be done by the administration. Clearly, the hearing and all
the commitments were not enough, and there needs to be
now an emergency hearing, and concrete steps need to be
taken to ensure that Jewish students feel safe to go
back to university. Telling them to flee is not a solution.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Well, then we have at Yale and I'll ask you this, Danielle.
You have a Jewish Shale University student journalist reporting on
this anti Israeli protest on their campus. This was actually
on Saturday night, was stabbed in the eye with a
Palestinian flag, while her assailant has gone unpunished. But anyway,
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she's the editor in chief of the Yale Free Press.
So much for free which saw hundreds of students camping
on campus in support of the Palestinians. They say, what
I'd like to understand is I thought these campuses, we
often talked about them being woke and politically incorrect. I
thought on college campuses that slanted so solidly left.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
If you use the.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Wrong pronoun, I mean you risked being kicked out of
the school. And here you have chanting of from the
river to the sea and virulent, repulsive anti Semitic comments
and pro Hamas comments made on a regular basis. You
know what part of what happened on October seventh? Have
all of these these Ivy League students forgotten? I'm trying
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to understand over twelve hundred Israelis killed, hundreds more that
have been taking and kidnapped. You have babies on video decapitated.
You have women being raped left, right and all over
the place and them telling their heart harrowing stories. What
part of this, you know, how was their moral compass
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that far off?
Speaker 7 (06:41):
Look, I think you raise a devastating point, which is
that for everybody except Jews, all of these campuses have
such strict guidelines and rules of what you can and
can't say. I was a student on Columbia's campus ten
years ago, and already then, I mean, you really couldn't
say anything. It was, you know, safe space. Put a
correctness at the La Zoo. And now from the river
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to the sea is the least of our problems. I mean,
the calls that are happening on campus are globalized, the Antifada.
We want the antifada. Now you have students holding up
signs that say Al Cassam's next target, Al Kasam is
Kmasa's military brigade. So I mean from the river to
the sea is the least of our problems. There's very
very clear, overt direct calls for violence, not in the
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Middle East, but actually on campus.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I'd like to understand why this this campus president, these
campus presidents I should say plural, because it's happening everywhere.
Why haven't they taken the stand that if you, if
you are acting this way, and if you're trying to
shut down the campus and if you are hostile to
other students, you will be thrown out of school.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
What what? What? What am I missing here?
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Because what's crazy is it's not just that they're not
throwing kids out of school, it's that Chefik, for example,
the president Columbia, she's not doing anything that she could do.
For example, Mayor Adams made it very clear last night
in statements and posts to Twitter that he would love
to be sending the NYPD to Colombia's campus because there
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are actually threats of violence and there are actually things
that could be doing to be keeping Jewish students safe.
And he made it very clear in his statement that
because Colombia is a private university and it's obviously privately held,
he can't deploy the NYPD there unless Shabik says that
they should come, which she is so far refusing to do.
And today she not only canceled classes and said that
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they would be held by Zoom, but also said she's
looking to compromise with the so called protesters and that
she's hoping to find a common ground with them. So
I think it's.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, how do you find common ground with virulent anti Semitism?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Can you tell me whether you know where is the
common ground? There?
Speaker 7 (08:53):
Not going to be anywhere good for the Jews, I'll
tell you that much.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, let me go back to Jonathan. You have a
prominent r at Columbia warning Jewish students to go home.
This was yesterday and do not return to campus.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Their opportunity, they're learning opportunity has been taken away from them.
And here's what's really scary. We've heard, you know, virulent,
repulsive anti semitism in the halls of Congress. We see
it all over college campuses around the country, many of
the top universities in our country, you know, universities where
parents would be so happy to learn that their kid
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was accepted into an Ivy League school, only to enter
this environment. Never mind a woke environment, never mind. You know, no,
there's no fostering of the free and open exchange of ideas, ideals,
and opinions, an environment where often conservatives are shouted down
and shut up and told not to speak. I'm just
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trying to understand if their opportunity to learn is being
ripped away from them, and they don't feel safe at
these universities. They have a not only a moral obligation,
they they have a legal obligation to make sure every
student is safe. And that's not the conditions that exist
now on these college campuses.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
That's absolutely right. They absolutely have an obligation to do so,
and they have not been able to keep the students safe,
neither the Columbia's Public Safety nor with the help of
the NYPD. And not only is this going to cause
huge concerns for current students, but it's also going to
create doubt for parents of prospective students. They're going to
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think twice even five times before sending their kids to Harvard, Columbia, Yale,
or other Ivy League schools. Above all else, these parents
will want to know that their child is safe at school,
and that to guarantee that many of these schools cannot
keep today.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
Frankly, I think it's wrong to assume that if America
were attacked, these students wouldn't be at least somewhat happy
about that, some of them, because many of them are
protesting against American flags as well. And it's clear that
they're neither happy with the United States or Israel at
the moment in time. But to the broader point, I
don't think this is about October seventh, but these students,
(11:05):
I don't think this is about the current war. For
these students. This has a conversation that's been happening on campus,
and specifically Colombia's campus, for more than twenty years.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Exactly why I take issue with you when you hear
Prohamas agitators at Columbia screaming Jews, Jews go back to Poland.
I'm sorry, but that is about as anti semitic as
you can be.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
Oh, I don't disagree. I don't think this isn't anti semitic.
I'm saying it goes further. I think this isn't just
about October seventh. I think this conversation has been happening
on Columbia's campus by these kinds of protesters for more
than twenty years. And the exact investment language that they're
suggesting of Colombia's portfolio shouldn't be invested in any company
that dares to be invested in Israel. It's something that's
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been going on long before the actions of October seventh
and the war that's followed.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
All right, quick break right back more with Jonathan Heronoff
and Daniello Greenbound Davis. We'll get to your calls on
the other side. Eight hundred and nine four one Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program ify,
we antinue the situation unfolding on these Ivy League institution
campuses now around the country. It is not safe for
kids to go to even Columbia or Yale in this environment.
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I never thought i'd see this in our time. But
we continue with Jonathan Heronoff and Daniello Greenbound Davis is
with us. Here's what the saddest part of all this
is when you enter the political arena is Joe Biden
has been trying to lecture and tell Israel to withdraw
in their battle, their fight against terrorism. This was the
(12:36):
worst terror attack in their history, and he's now taken
it a step further after Iran fired all of these
missiles for the first time towards Israel, and Israel thankfully
was able to intercept ninety nine percent of them. What
did the President of the United States say? Hell, he
was pressuring Israel to show restraint. My answer is if
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you are attacked, you must show strength and you must
defeat those that would would that are seeking to destroy
you and kill you.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Am I wrong, Jonathan?
Speaker 6 (13:09):
What I'll say Sean is that you know that the
situation is bad on campus.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You're trying to thread the needle. I asked you a
very specific question. If a country is attacked with missiles
that are designed to wipe out your population, is it
not the wisest thing to do but to understand that
they are a real, clear present danger to your existence.
People that have in their written charter to destroy you shouldn't.
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Shouldn't America support their right to self determination and self defense.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
I think you have a moral obligation as a nation
to defend your people, especially when you're under existential threats,
and that is something that has become very apparent since
Oclober seventh, and Israel has rightly said that it's defending
its people against the threat of kamos hezbolo and most
recently directly Islamic cobod because we're wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well, will this impact I mean, we break everything down
and polls demographically. Do you believe Daniello, this whole impact
the Jewish American vote?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Come November fifth, I do.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
I mean, historically American Jews are overwhelmingly Democratic, and I
think that trend will largely continue. But you know, just anecdotally,
I can tell you some of the most liberal Jews
that I know are feeling detached from the Democratic Party.
That said, I think there's a bit more complexity to
the Biden situation. I can tell you I've been to
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Israel five times ince October seventh, and every Israeli I
speak to, including the most right wing Israeli Israeli as
I speak to, only have overwhelming gratitude for the Biden administration.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Now.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
They don't love everything he says and some of the things.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Let me tell you something, I've been friends with Prime
Minister Natanyeho for over thirty years. Uh, that is the
exact opposite of what I'm hearing from my friends in Israel.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
I can only speak to my own experience.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Jean Kay, appreciate your time. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
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Speaker 1 (15:31):
Al right, twenty five to the top of the hour.
Your calls coming up, eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program,
all right, let me play. There is one Democrat that
has been speaking out and I deserve to tip my
hat to him. He's earned it. He's been very outspoken
about this situation with Israel, and that is John Fetterman, Yes,
that John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, the Senator from Pennsylvania, and
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talking about how crazy it is that there are Democrats
that will not condemn Iran and referring to protesters that
are out there with their bullhorns and yelling at people
in public places as well the a holes that they are.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Listen.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
I am not going to be in a position to
tell Israel what I should should do. That that's their choice,
and I certainly hope none of this escalates and turns
into a more widespread but I will say is that
I'm always going to choose I would want to follow
Israel on that that's our key ally, our special relationship,
and they're surrounded by nations that underwrite terrorism and all
(16:35):
of those things, and I was appalled that there were
members of our party, Democrats, that can't even condemn Iran.
And that's that's crazy. It's completely reasonable to want to
cease fire or to have a different view on that.
Absolutely that's the democracy, but it is not appropriate or
illegal or it's helpful to advance your argument. If you
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show up in Starbucks, I mean the Starbucks with a
bullhorn and start yelling at people, and that doesn't make
you noble, it just makes you. It's very American to protest,
and to do that in the appropriate way, then I
absolutely support that. I'm not suggesting that you have to
agree with my view, but it's just saying it doesn't
really allow you to disrupt lives and to inflict those
(17:22):
kinds of damages on people that are just trying to
get on with their lives.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Got it, sit my hat. He's the only one.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
And now Joe Biden is beholden to all of them,
and this now will be on the ballot. Joe Biden
has abandoned any any real moral support that he should
be giving Israel because all of these crazy people that
have been out there protesting and are continuing to protest,
those that are threatening Jewish students on college campuses, those
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that basically are offering aiding and a betting and comforting
those people responsible for the terror attacks, the worst terror
attack at Israel's history. I got to give them a
lot of credit because it's not safe for them anymore.
And I didn't think we'd see this in our lifetime,
but it's unfolding right before our eyes. It's been unfolding
(18:15):
all day, all weekend. Anyway, to our phone as we
go ed North Carolina, You're on the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 10 (18:21):
Hi, Hey, Shaan, how are you? I was. I'm just
thinking a different take on this thing about these folks
on campuses that have gotten into this following. It seems
more like it might be possibly sort of a cult
like thing. I mean, you know, in the seventies you
had these phenomenon like the Jim Jones thing, a thousand people,
(18:42):
thirteen hundred people, you know, taking kool aid in mass
suicide down in Guyana. But now with social media, people
are so segmented from their traditional mechanisms of getting information,
you know, usually through family and friend and I guess
churches and wherever they socialize, they get into this situation
(19:07):
where they're so lonely, and then this group comes along
and it's only about ten percent of them that knows
the truth. I mean when you look at these organizations
that influence this thinking, the other ninety percent just like
I'm a part of something. I feel like I feel
like I'm in something and I'm making a difference. But
they don't understand. And to illustrate, if you just simplicate
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one little sliver of that community, the LGBT community, about
ninety five percent of them are on board with this.
They're like, oh yes, oh yes, We've got to be
a part of this. We've got to be a part
of this. You know, Death to Israel, Long live hamas well.
The fact that matter is is if they stop and
just look at it, Israelis would welcome them as a
community more with open arms than habas Wood. So it's
(19:51):
in their own that they don't even have their own
interest in mind. They're just part of something.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Look at the attack by I wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Now you're raising a good point because you're bringing up
human rights abuses. What did they just have in the
last week in Iran? Another crackdown on any woman that
is not wearing the hajab that does not cover up
in public. Uh, what do they do if you're discovered
to be a gay or lesbian in Iran? They'll they'll
(20:20):
put you up at the top of a building and
they'll murder you. And and there's there's so many paradoxes here.
If you think of these college campuses and what they
have evolved into, especially in recent years, these these woke
havens for you know, juvenile delinquents and and and look
at the trouble you would get into in any one
(20:41):
of these college campuses if if God forbid, you use
the wrong pronoun, you know how many people would be
triggered by that, Or if you expressed expressed an opinion that, well,
I think people are either born men or they're born women.
That would be controversial on most campuses today. But they
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say they're for women's rights, they say they're for gays
gay rights. They say there for free and open debate
and dialogue. But conservatives are not welcome on most of
these college campuses. And now you look at why are
they turning a blind eye to the slaughter of October
the seventh and offering comfort and aid to the enemy
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and the people that put empower the people that were
responsible for that. Why are they not in favor of
Israel's right to self determination and supporting their right to
live free and have a safe, secure country and not
have to live under constant, never ending rocket fire. Why
are they fighting for their kids to have the right
(21:45):
to play outdoors and get a little bit of vitamin
D and neighboring you know, border towns likes that are
where I was, where kids have to play in underground
bunker playgrounds. That city alone had gotten hit with ten
thousand rockets in ten years by the time I went
to it. You know, why are we not looking at
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the fact that Hamas took all the aid money that
the world had said, including American tax dollars and Israeli
tax dollars to build hospitals and schools, and they build
terror tunnels instead. You know, how what has gone wrong
with their moral compass that they're that far out of
balance and that you know, where's this hatred coming from,
(22:30):
this repulse of anti Semitism coming from. I don't know
the answer to it. It's puzzling to me, but it's
actually scary because the numbers are much larger than I
would have ever dreamed of.
Speaker 10 (22:43):
They just don't they don't know the fact. I don't
know any other way to say it other than if
you ask any of those people a series of questions
just on the facts, and you don't give it a
political slant. You don't say it's Republican or Democrat, or
Israeli or Hamas. I mean, it's just unbelievable that they
don't have a grasp of knowledge. And some are coming
(23:04):
around Bill Maher Fetterman, They're starting to realize, wait a minute,
this is this is crazy. This crazy group think has
gotten things way out of whack. And yeah itself with
just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, well, I gotta tell you. I mean, it literally
raises a lot of questions. And I will tell you
these are the people that Joe Biden cannot criticize. These
this this is a part of the democratic coalition, the
Democratic base, and that has now caused the President of
the United States to abandon our closest ally in a
(23:40):
battle against radical Islamic terrorists. And think of how profound
that is, putting his own blind, personal political ambition above
what is morally right. And it's not a difficult call.
Appreciate the call, my friend ed thank you all right,
quick break right back to our phones. Eight hundred and
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Hi, back to our busy phones eight hundred and ninety
four one, Sean our number if you want to be
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Hannity Show. Glad you called.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
How you doing, Sean? I'm gonna circle around and move
into this travesty that is the Donald Trump siasco going
on here in New York. And I wanted to call
you because you made some good points the other day
on Friday about what is the record that New Yorkers
(26:02):
have in regards to putting this this fiasco to an end?
And you know, I did some reading on it, and
we really have no recourse. You can't really stop the
da from you know, until there is some sort of
an indictment and then you have an appeal. But I
(26:24):
was thinking about where's Jim Jordan and where's the Judiciary
committee to bring in Latisha James, who the DA who
has already expressed personal bias towards.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I mean, let's say the Attorney General of New York
actually went into court today and the issue was the
Remember the bond was like over five hundred, you know,
million dollars, which is insane considering the case we're talking about.
Remember the judge in the case and Goren, this case
was supposed to be about valuations, even though a disclaimer
(26:59):
said don't listen to our valuations. You have a fiduciary
responsibility to do your own valuations, and then went ahead
and valued mar Lago, which is close to a billion
dollar property, if not more, and stuck to a valuation
of eighteen million dollars, which was obscene. Judge in Goren,
(27:21):
this case was resolved by summary judgment. They didn't have
a they didn't even have a jury trial in this case.
He just said you lose. Now we're going to go
right to the penalty phase. And it was so obvious
how prejudiced and how political the judge was. And the
Attorney General ran on a platform to get one man Trump,
one organization, the Trump organization, and you know one family,
(27:45):
the Trump family, and they succeeded to a point. Now
in the criminal trial, you have a more complicated issue
that's going to unfold. Well, let's let's assume that I'm
right that Donald Trump can't get a fair hearing in
New York City, a very liberal venue. You very few
people voted from there, and the guilty verdict comes back.
(28:05):
But he has very good he has a lot of
arguments already that he would appeal to the any verdict,
not the least of which is the judge should have
recused himself and I believe an unconstitutional gag order. Okay, Now,
when is that going to be determined? Because if you're
going to have the guilty verdict and then the appeal
(28:26):
comes back sometime after the election, how is that not
election interference? Tell about to Bob McDonald, Rob McDonald, the
former governor of Virginia, Right, you get the last word.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Yeah, I agree, I'm I know. For me and a
lot of folks here in New York, we've been looking
at ways where that this trial should not even be
allowed to go on. And we're looking at what are
the possibilities of there being a class action lawsuit against
Letitia James for misusing public funds for prosecution?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Why do you think that any Why do you think
that would be possible in a state that has gotten
so hardcore left wing? Why do you think there would
be justice? I don't believe it would happen.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yeah, because you know, I listen, one must have faith,
and there are enough people who are who are still
not I don't know, affected by this sort of woke
idealism that's persuasive here in New York, but there has
(29:36):
to be I'm still wondering why Jim Jordan has not
used his powers on the Judiciary Committee to at least
have Letitia James come to d C and explain. How
are we supposed to respect what she is saying and
take it as truth when she's already expressed biased. It's
(29:59):
already biased at the top. And if I'm not mistaken,
yesterday one of the attorneys that you had on said
that they can't even identify Brad won't even identify the
underlying charge. So it smells and it's you know, it's
the Other thing I would say is the narrative. I
don't think it's about that it's Donald Trump anymore. I
(30:21):
think the narrative needs to change that it's an American
citizen that is really being wrongfully accused, and you know,
on behest of a political party who was weaponized the
justice system. You know, I wish there was a way to.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Imagine, just for a second, if the shoe were on
the other foot, what would the left in this country
be doing, how would they be reacting, what would they
be saying? Anyway, David, appreciate a good call, my friend,
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