January 15, 2022 • 25 mins
In this episode Phil speaks with Giorgos Kallis, author of the books "Limits" and "The Case for Degrowth", and Filka Sekulova of the think-tank Research and Degrowth, who researches the economic basis of happiness as well as degrowth and nature-based solutions in cities. You can follow Giorgos on twitter at https://twitter.com/g_kallis and can follow Filka's work at https://twitter.com/R_Degrowth
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