May 8, 2024 • 35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
During for President Trump's criminal hutch money trial, adult film
stars Stormy Daniels testified that she spanked Trump with a
rolled up magazine that had.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
His face on the cover.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
And I think it's weird that the hotel even had
a copy of Bankruptcy Aficionado.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So we talked about the Stormy Daniel straw. But this
aspect of it all day long drove me crazy. Portraying
it as when she'd had enough of his arrogance, she
actually told me needed to stop and hit him with
a magazine.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
That is flirting. That's what that was. That was a.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Pretty girl saying, oh no, you don't and spanks him
with a magazine. I'd be thinking, well, I'm getting lucky exactly.
That was an overture of I'm kind of into you
and available. That was not a He was so arrogant
and she put him in his place. As they portrayed
it on cable news all day long, do you actually
believe that if you never flirted before? Wow? Is that
(01:16):
willful ignorance? Servisender an astonishing level of naivete.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Of course, if it's young journalists.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Young people don't couple, they don't flirt, they're terrified to.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
It's kind of sad, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
My favorite moment, favorite moment, that's an interesting way to
put it, of watching news coverage yesterday was the intro
to ABC News with David Muir, in which he said,
and I should ask for the audio, but this will
be close enough. Deadly tornadoes continue to spread across the Midwest.
Lives have been lost, and the threat continues. But first
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adult film star Stormy Daniels testified in the Trump trial. Right,
Oh seriously, I just I wonder that too, if that
was Wilfer ignant. Sure, they actually don't know. If a
hot chick walks up to a rich guy and says,
nice tide, does that come with a volume control? That's
not putting him in his place? That was an overture
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of flirting.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
All right, that's the way the game works.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Goodness, we have so much to squeeze in this hour
and the whole show. Hoping stay tuned, but man, we
ran this clip once and got so much reaction somebody
requests to hear it again.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We thought, all right, why not?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Jared Bernstein is the voice you're gonna hear responding to
a question. He is the Chairman of the of the
President's Economic Advisory Council. He is the Chief Economic Advisor
to the President of the United States, Joseph R.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Biden, d Delaware.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
And it's amazing, Michael, like you said, they print the dollar,
So why does the government even borrow?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Well, the the I mean again, some of this stuff
gets some of the language that the some of the
language and concepts are just confusing. I mean, the government
definitely prints money, and it definitely lends that money. Which
is why the government definitely prints money, and then it
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lends that money by selling bonds.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Is that what they do?
Speaker 6 (03:22):
They they.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, they they sell bonds.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Yeah, they sell bonds, right, since they sell bonds and
people buy the bonds and lend them the money.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
So a lot of times, a lot of times, at
least to my year with MMT, the language and the
concepts can be kind of unnecessarily confusing, But there is
no question that the government prints money and then it
uses that money to So yeah, I guess I'm just
(03:55):
I don't I can't really talk.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I don't. I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
I don't know what they're talking about, like, because it's
like the government clearly prints money, it does it all
the time, and it clearly borrows. Otherwise we wouldn't be
having this debt and death at conversation. So I don't
think there's anything confusing there.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And what's his position again, he's the chairman of the
Council of Economic Advisors.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Does anybody have any questions?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
So when we first played that, and when I first
heard the first part of it, I thought, Okay, this
is a guy that's just so in the weeds and
so knowledgeable.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
He's trying to figure out how to dumb it down.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Is to coarse, but you know, just to present it
in a way that a layman can understand it. But
then it becomes completely clear when he starts saying, is
that right, I don't know that's a good that he
actually doesn't know that was just bizarre. He makes reference
to MMT, which, if you're not familiar with it, it's
modern monetary theory. It is a fringe left AOC theory
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that governments can go into as much debt as they
want to just keep spending and spending because you can
always grow the economy fast than your interest payments, and
that gets everybody employed. It's it's super popular with green
new dealers. But man, it is a fringe way of
looking at But how is that an economic advisor of
any kind who who answers a question like that? The
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only answer I can come up with, and I'm not
sure it's a great one, but is that he didn't
want to say, plainly, we spend more than we take
in and borrow the balance because that's how we buy votes.
We're just we're just spending money to stay in power,
and we'll have to pay it back eventually. But as
long as it doesn't happen on our watch, as long
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as the disaster, the foreclosure doesn't happen on our watch,
we don't care. I don't know if you're right, or
if you're giving him too much credit. It's possible that
he just had the right politics and so they put
him in that position and he's actually not good at
his job, like he's a major donor or something I
don't know, or tied to the right people.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I don't know. Yeah, that was that was crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It is.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
That's the second time I heard it, and it's just
as a You.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Are an expert in this, that's your answer. Where are
the adults? All right? I gotta move on.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I don't say about that. I got I want to
tease this because I'm gonna get to it later. Elections matter, folks,
Elections matter. This is the most election of our lifetime.
This is the most election of our lifetime. You can't
argue with that. She me, literally, you can't.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
She might be the future president.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Don't you threaten me like that. I'm gonna get to
this later. I heard I heard this on NPR, so
I had to look up the details. I just heard
the tease on NPR. I didn't hear them do the story.
What's the cash value of being white? A nobel economist
has come up with it, and you're gonna find it annoying.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I'm already annoyed. Boy. That's great.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It gets too because we talked about this the other day.
It's similar to the I remember the name of the
term the tax, the uh, the passion passion tax, which
I also heard about on NPR, which.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I've never heard of before. But I looked it up
and it's a thing. It's the idea that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The Marxists or people who don't believe in capitalism or whatever,
believe that if you like your job, you're paying a
passion tax and you don't even know it, because you're
probably working for less than you would work for if
you didn't like your job.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Right, that's the passion tax.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
The difference between working a job you hate where they'd
have to pay you more and working a job you
love where you probably put in more hours and are
willing to take less pay.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's the passion tax.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
And you are being stolen from by your employer through
the passion tax, and.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
You don't even know it.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Oh No, somehow, taking liking a job and turning it
into a negative right really quite an amazing feat. The
thing about that philosophy, and I think it's more popular
than mine, is that it assumes life just happens to you,
that you're a you're of always a victim, that just
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life drains on you like well rain not.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
One of my better metaphors, and.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
There's nothing you can do about it except to enact
millions and millions and millions of rules to prevent anything
bad from ever happening. Whereas our philosophy, I'm sure you
share mine.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Is is that?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
No, no, no, Take hold of your life and live it.
Accept the bad hops except that some people are bastards
and they're gonna cheat you and the rest of it.
But you are the captain of your ship. Life doesn't
happen to you. You happen a life. Go get it.
There'll be set backs, there'll be you'll be screwed. We've
been screwed. Uh, but just you know, leave that behind
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you and figure out. Ah, I'm gonna move on sadder.
But why is our next guy comes along trying to
screw me like that? He's gonna f what do they say.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
F A f O?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yes, exactly, Well we'll call it. It's of course of philosophy.
Fart around and find out right. Come on, isn't that
a much more exciting way to live your life than Oh?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I really like what I do. So I think I'm
being cheated.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Well, there's that aspect of it, and then there's just
that's factually true.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I mean, if if my job was gonna be digging
holes all day long instead of this, you'd have to
pay me a hell of a lot. Yeah, I mean
a lot, a lot before I quit this job and
start digging holes for a living.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And with my back you're not gonna like my productivity,
but so I'm better off with that.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Then the I'm paying the passion tax because I like
this job, so I'd do it for less. But then
NPR would have a featurette on how you're getting the
abuse bonus and that you are the victim of the
abuse bonus, because the whole point is to portray everybody
as a victim. Yeah, I mean, you got to really
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work hard when you start going with the passion tax
and what I again, google it. There's a lot of
writing about it, a lot of people talking about it.
That Reddit thread of anti work. I'm sure it comes
up on that regularly. This this world where you're being
screwed in every which way, including if you like your
job is weird, and if you like your job kind
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of but don't like it a ton and you're getting
paid more than you would if you love it. But
let's you're getting the neutrality kneecapp. That's how it works.
You're just always a victim no matter what happens, and
so you've got to give them power to fix it
for you. It's the meh Man handling I'm kind of
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meh about my job, but.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Oh, you're the victim of the me man handling. That
is hilarious. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I hope you're not paying the passion tax by liking
your job, right, and you go in on the weekend
and work more because you know you'd actually do that
in your free time. You like your job so much.
That's the passion tax, you know. I was just going
to say, the number of people who see life the
way you do, my friends and we do, is way, way, way, way,
way more than you would think given media and education
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and entertainment, which are the three headed monster of passivism
and progressivism. You're right, your way of looking at the
world is right. Be proud of it, be an advocate
for it strongly. It was funny. I was taking in
some lefty media just to figure out what arguments I'm
going up against today, and I heard back to back
(11:39):
NPR portraying the college anti Israel protests as a ground
swell of the true feeling of millions of Americans.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I got polling on that that would show that's not true. Oh,
it's utterly false. It's fictional.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Meanwhile, was it The New York Times or the Biden
administration themselves were claiming, no, this is very, very few
people are actually radicals camps.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
That was the New York Times article.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
It's a last on the list of issues young people
care about. Yeah, yeah, how distorted a view we get
of America through our media. So the cops came out
and cleared out George Washington University's campments encampments last night.
I don't know if they've gotten the Kafia off the
statue at George Washington yet.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Which is obscene. How do we permit that is obscene?
That's happened.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But they took the the the charity Tree of Truth
to the wooden teeth of protests or something like that.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
But we can get into that among other things.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
At WOOF just as OOF a lot more on the
way stay with us.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
Anyone that's using swipe to text, most likely millennial, possibly
gen Z. Anyone that's able to type fast and accurately
with one hand, We're going to say, probably pre teen
to age twenty five I being fast and accurately with
two thumbs again, probably mid twenties, mid thirties. Even you'll
kind of stay at this thumb tapping age until probably
(13:11):
about i'd say fifties, then you're gonna start adding in
your your index finger unnecessarily. Age sixty five plus is
where you start doing the one finger tap, holding with
your left hand.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Or your right hand.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
You're getting up there when you're doing that.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I just don't think that's true.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I think the one hand or two hands depends on
the size of your phone, because I've had the smaller
phone where I can reach everything with my thumb, and
then I've had the bigger phone where I got to
use both thumbs. Yeah, I see young people. I've sat
next to lots of young people on planes or whatever,
and they're using both thumbs. Go to the the can
go faster than me. Definitely, my youngest who enjoys teasing me.
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At one point, I'm voice texting and she says, oh,
it is so boomer really, I'm like, honey, it's saving
me time. Really, So young people don't voice TX almost
exclusive voice text.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I've not had that substantiated by like a committee of
youthful people. But she's she probably knows. But that's interesting
to me that they don't voice text. They see it
as faster to use your thumbs.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Katie or cooler voice. Texting when not in.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
The car or through your Apple Watch is a little
it's boomer.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Huh, it's a little little boomer. If you're among people.
Is that what you mean here?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (14:27):
I mean if you're standing in a group of people
and you pull out your phone and you start firing
off a text, you know, text to voice.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, oh you. I don't care if I'm a boomer.
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Actually I'm a gen Z, but as a gen X
gen X said, but as a friend, I'm not gen Z.
A gen X, but as a friend said to me.
But you present boomer and I do a fair enough.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Okay, Boomer, what time is it? Well, we have time
for a couple of stories.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
This is what we affectionately call behind the scenes bingo
bango bonga. We got a bunch of stuff worthy of
a mention in a quick discussion. Anyway, you are you
hip to Saudi Arabia's GNEM project. I think that's how
you pronounce it. It's a MSB's insane development that's going
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to turn Saudi Arabia not into an oil desert shake them,
but like a modern twenty second century hub of all
sorts of stuff. His idea is a skyscraper and I
can't remember how high is it supposed to be. It's
taller than the Empire State Building, and it's going to
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be one hundred and five miles wide. Taller than the
Empire State Building, but one hundred and five miles wide
or one hundred and five miles long, if you would
like to describe it like that.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
It's going to house nine million people.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
It's what it's known as the Line, and it's the
flags of this unimaginably ambitious Gnohm project.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So I know he's.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Big on as a guy who's in his early thirties,
he's big on the the US being rich because the.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Oil ain't gonna last forever. Have you heard of electric cars?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
We got to come up with a new way to be,
you know something, or we're gonna we're doomed.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
So that's pretty smart right right now.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
The first phase, by twenty thirty, was supposed to be
ten miles of this Empire State Building.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
How do you get your wall of China thing y?
How do you get your camel in the elevator? Oh? Unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
But now they're realizing that the country is spending far
more than it's taking in costs have exploded because building
costs are up like forty percent globally, and so now
they're just going to build one point five miles of
the structure by twenty thirty, which is I mean, that's
you know, a sixth of what they were talking about.
But wait a minute, you got a skyscraper a mile
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and a half long, and that's the scaled back not
as ambitious.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Excuse me.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
First step, speaking of Bingo Banngo, what Stormy Daniels explained
in the courtroom yesterday and some of the legal analysis
of that, mostly Bongo, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 9 (17:22):
The likelihood there will be a trial in the Classified
Documents case before the election is fading fast. Just Alan
Kennon has officially taken a May twenty trial day off
the calendar, saying there were too many pre trial motions
and legal issues to resolve before trial could go forward.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
This delay makes it all but certain a.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
Classified Documents case will not go to trial before the election.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
So we're going to talk about the Stormy Daniels case,
but wanted to play that first to make the point
that this is going to be it. Remember, there was
like four trials are more that looked like they were
going to happen leading up to the election. Now this
one is it the Stormy Daniels thing, which is a
misnaming of the thing, going to say, this is the
misdemeanor business records fraud, election finance, business fraud. But this
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is the only one that's going to happen. So the
classified documents, which he's guilty of obstruction part anyway, probably
he is.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
That one ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
And the January sixth stuff, they can't even do anything
until the Supreme Court rules on the question of community immunity, right, right,
So that's not going to happen. When in George old
Fanny Willis couldn't keep her thighs together, So that one's over.
That was unnecessarily frank I enjoyed it, but it was unnecessary.
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So in case you missed this, mattress actress, pornographer Stormy
Daniels testified for some reason yesterday in the Trump business
records finance, false business.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Four hour work case.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So far and there's more to come tomorrow, yes, and
they are going to indeed cross examiner further tomorrow. I
don't know if she can take on two guys at
the same time. Okay, hoh man, Katie.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
What do you think of that? Like, I think she could.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Any green weighing in, But we have anelyses from a
variety of commentators. Let's start with the man himself, Trump
and thirty three, please, Michael.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
So, this was a very big day, day.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Very very big day.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
As you've seen, their case is totally falling apart. They
have nothing on books and records and even something that
should bear a very little relationship to the case. Just
a disaster for the DA sorta. D's a disaster all cases,
just a disaster.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So he didn't get into the specifics. I still say
the media is completely wrong. I don't know if they
know it or not, but the analysis of this had
to be a very uncomfortable day for Donald Trump to
have the whole world here. I guarantee you he's thrilled
to have people know that he slept with the twenty
six year old body.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
He's not embarrassed. He loves having his friends know this.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
And as a defendant sitting there watching the prosecution's case,
just go down cul de Sac after cul de Sac.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, and then okay.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So more nallis is this is from Alyssa Farroh Griffin,
who's a Trump fan, And we're gonna get some Trump
critics coming up, and you can decide who you find
more persuasive.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
But forty Michael, and I want to say this, I'm
not an attorney. I know Republican voters, I know the
Republican public. I'm a bit stunned that the prosecution leans
so heavily into the salacious details about the sexual encounter
rather than talking about who Stormy Daniels is. I interviewed
her recently. She's a mother, she's been nearly bankrupted because
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of her former attorney now being Trump's legal bills. She's
who could be a very sympathetic figure who also could
have credibility, and I think to really lean into that
side of it, I don't know that that's going to
play well with a jury. This was something that you know,
took place in two thousand and six. She was twenty
seven years old, he was sixty. That data point matters.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
That's actually it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
That's actually a really good point if she'd just stayed
away from what sexual position they were in, which she
actually mentioned, and that sort of stuff and just gone
with Look, I mean that was a part of my life.
But I'm a mom now and I have no money
because I you know, I had an affair with a
married man, and that has ruined me. That that's a
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much better angle than the what he was wearing and
how I flirted with him and what sexual position wear in.
You missed your calling because while that made me sick,
that characterization, I mean she sought the profit over again,
that would have been way better. It still would have
been wildly irrelevant, but it would have been more sympathetic.
(22:05):
Here is Lisa Rubin on MSNBC trying to convince us
that anything.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Leason, Lisia, I love you, Alicia.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Did a different woman, Michael, different woman two.
Speaker 10 (22:19):
At a technical level, I understand what they're saying, But
on another level, it has everything to do with what's
being charged here. So what do they have to do?
They have to work backwards to convince the jury Donald
Trump had every motive and incentive not only to do
the deal, but to cover it up. How do you
convince the jury that he had every mode of an incentive.
You here, forgive the pun straight from the horse's mouth.
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What that interactions like? And for her, this was a
traumatic incident It recasts Donald Trump from sort of the
womanizer that we understood this episode to be about, to
the predator that the Access Hollywood tape made him out
to be. It completely reinforces a frame of him that
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was existing in the political dialogue at the time, and
makes all the more credible why Donald Trump and Michael
Cohen and all of their underlings would work so hard
to conceal the true nature of the payment, disguise it
instead as legal services and invoices pursuant to a retainer agreement,
something that debor pterosophag.
Speaker 11 (23:21):
So Katie's sporting hair. What look she went to the
hotel room. It stops there. She wasn't hog tied and
carried there. She went to the hotel room and knew exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
What was going to happen.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I've seen Hogtide in Alabama, Hogtied in high school.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I think was the movie she was in. So she
has been hogtipe, but not now for instance, not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Not only that, Katie, but as we discussed earlier, she
was in Tahoe for the celebrity golf tournament to hook
up with rich celebrities and get paid for it.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Was she there to ski friends.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Was she there because she's so you're a big fan
of the game of golf.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
She's a hiker, Yeah, big hiker.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Great, Scott, Lisa Rubin, What a great example of a
professional liar. This really goes to the heart of the case.
Why they'd be motivated. It's been stipulated. As they say
in the world of law. Everybody agrees Trump paid her off.
Whether they got it on or not is entirely irrelevant.
(24:26):
It's a it's a case about keeping records over where
that money went and why that her whether what position
are you kidding me? But even back to the soap
opera part of it, the sex part of it, the
fact that she specifically said a number of times, I
wasn't drugged, I wasn't forced. I willingly did this, okay,
(24:48):
Like Katie said, Okay, so you went up to the room,
he's in his pajamas. You want to He wouldn't force you.
He made it clear he wanted to have sex and
you want ahead and did okay. So where's the story
on this? Straight at the heart of the case from
the horse's mouth and.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
This whole other thing about her being a mother and
painting herself the prosecutor didn't ask her what position they
had sex, and she offered that information up.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
That would have been a weird question.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
Willingly dropping all of these bizarre like details on us
without being asked.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
If I'm a approach to witness whereas one leg behind
your head or both? All right, I must jump in
here and call for Harvard professor Alan Dershowitz, Clip forty three.
Speaker 12 (25:31):
Well, first of all, it was clear reversible era today
committed by the judge and by the prosecution under the
reasoning of the recently reversed Harvey Weinstein case.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
So much information.
Speaker 12 (25:42):
Came out that was utterly irrelevant. Let's start with whether
they had sex at all, utterly irrelevant. The only issue
is whether she threatened to expose him, and whether she
extorted him, and whether he then paid money to avoid
the embarrassment to his family, to his business, to his children, and,
according to the prosecution, to help himself get reelected. The
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issue of what actually happened is utterly irrelevant. And then
we get to the details, the silk pajamas, the kind
of lotion he was wearing.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 12 (26:16):
How the Court of Appeals in New York that reversed
the Harvey Weinstein condition, which was a harder case to reverse,
wouldn't reverse this conviction if it got up there. I
would certainly recommend to the prosecutors in this case that
they study the Weinstein case very carefully, because it gives
a road map to what you can't do, and this
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prosecutor is just following the roadmap of what you can't do.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
So that was on Fox News. Obviously commentary fairly sympathetic
to the Trump team. As Jack mentioned earlier, Jake Tapper
on the lead on CNN, has been doing a pretty
even handed job in the trial, getting to what Dershowitz
just referenced, the sexual positions, all that sort of stuff.
The judge actually said there were some things that probably
would have been better left unsaid. The fact that the
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judge said that, yes, and the defense said, yeah, so
many things, so often, your honor, we need a mistrial,
And he said, I don't think we're at the point
where a mistrial is justified. Andy said there are things
that probably shouldn't have been said. Uh oh, oh, your
dishonor before we get to the home run ball that
is the next clip. Now, Katie, I know we we
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I think we've inferred, and we've inferred your point of
view over the last twenty four hours on this. But
do you think most how do you think most women
this strikes them? Do most women feel like Stormy's a
victim of something? Do you think or or she knew
what she was doing?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I sure don't. I don't think they think she's a victim.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
I mean, this is a common sense situation where she
knew what was going to happen, and it's I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Well her graphy star.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
Yeah, and a stripper wanted to be on the Apprentice
and gets invited to the hotel room in goes This
is not a victim situation.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, the testimony where she says he held the being
on the Apprentice out there as bait.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
There was a power imbalance. Okay, that's on you.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
We got a text about that that I thought was funny.
Can the girl who the rock star left in her
hometown and didn't take her on a whirlwind romance tour
after a night of love and now sue the rock star?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Wow? I mean this sort of thing happens.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Where you know, I thought I was gonna be the
wife of bon Jobe. Turns out he just wanted to
sleep with me shocking. One of my favorite Rolling Stones albums,
Tattoo You from way Back in the Day. One of
the lines on one of my favorite songs, every girl
gets the same, come on, I'm gonna make you a
star please Anyway, Jake Tamper doing a pretty good job.
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This tape is descriptive, and it includes the unfortunate phrase
of the Day clip forty eight.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Michael.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
At times, Stormy Daniels have here really quite tense when
facing questions from Trump's defense team.
Speaker 13 (29:05):
Yeah, we knew this was going to be unpleasant. I
mean they got her to admit that, yes, she hates
the defendant. She has said that she would quote dance
if you went to jail. She always him hundreds of
thousands of dollars as a result of other litigation, And
they pulled up a tweet where she said she doesn't
want to pay that quote orange turd a single dime.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
There it was the OT, Oh May oh, May.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Do you think that using ot Katie makes her more
sympathetic to women? She slept with it a shore, good one,
good boy, you slept with the OT.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I prefer fornicated, but to teach their own.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, you're right, because there was no probably little sleeping
at all.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, I do not feel rested. Yeah, this is not
nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Rob Petrie and Laura are not sleeping in separate twin
beds in the world anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
All Right, she banged the ot there, you go. Wow,
Well he's o t but he might get me on TV.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
So let's do this. Oh, come on, let's be adults here.
Gotten she's twenty six and he's sixty. Oh I know,
I mean, yeah, he's a fat old man. You're twenty
six years old. You had sex with him. You probably
practically literally held your nose and had sex with him
because you thought you were going to become famous for it.
And we're supposed to feel sympathetic to this for some reason.
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Keeping in mind, as Joe has pointed out, and lots
of lawyers have. This has got nothing to do with it.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
Anyway, She goes to his hotel room and goes, I
think I misread the situation.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah, well I can sense. I have a psychic connection
with the audience, and I sense that you're annoyed, you're disgusted,
you're just demoralized by this whole ugly episode. But some
of you are holding out. Some of you are saying,
I'm not completely demoralized and disgusted yet.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Oh yeah, take this in, friend.
Speaker 13 (30:56):
I don't want to sound like I'm doing wishful thinking.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yes, but which prison would be best? What about?
Speaker 12 (31:05):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Close tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
That's the view joking about which prison Trump is going
to end up in for his misdemeanor reporting campaign legal
campaign misdemeanor. Well, he'd charges He's not going to end
up in jail for that, but he certainly could end
up in jail for contempt at court, as the judge
threatened the other day. And New York City Mayor Eric
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Adams said yesterday that Rikers is ready for Trump if
they need to do that.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Oh really yeah, yeah wow, So that could happen.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I mean that, And like we've been talking about, I
think Trump might be wanting that to happen.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I would I would.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Love to write for Trump the very brief statement that
gets him jailed. We don't really have time to get
into my rough draft here, but I would love that.
You made the point of the day. I think Katie
you you you laid down with vot if I mean
use biblically turn Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
So at her own will.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, and you can admit it in your
own free will, so you could get on the apprentice.
You you laid with the ot, happy with yourself. Any
comment on any of this text line four one five
two nine five k f TC Armstrong and get.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Source Shuan, for this was a human place. It is
not yours.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
The elders did not tell us everything about this world.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, okay, that's the that's the new Planet of the
Apes movie. I forget which the name of that one
is a Planet of the Apes goes to Halloo or
meets Fonsie or I don't remember what it is beers
than ever. My twelve year old is super into the
Planet of the Apes movies and they are really really good.
(33:10):
It's just it seems like a new one comes out
every three months, is the only problem. I feel like
I've watched like five of them in the last year.
Really maybe it just feels that way. But the new
one that then they're they're set in San Francisco, which
is kind of cool, or they have been.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I don't know about this new one.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
But Caesar, the main character, is long dead and his
grandson discovers something about.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
The planet or something.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I don't know, but anyway, I'm sure it's in theaters Friday,
and I'm sure I will be at the movie theater
watching it, maybe.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
At the Imax.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Sounds to me like the apes are settler colonialists taking
over human land.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
They kind of are.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
RFK Juniors said doctors found a dead worm in his
head after an eight part of his brain.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
That story is out today.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
It was claimed in a deposition taken more than a
decade ago as part of a divorce proceeding. RFK Junior,
now seventy, made the admission during his twenty twenty twelve
divorce proceeding, detailing cognitive problems after finding out that a
worm had he eaten part of his brain away. This
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is so gross and freaky. Is there any end to
the number of weird things that get attached to RFK Junior?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I mean, he's not like getting less out there as
we get closer. It's like, Yeah, it's hard to know
whether it was Republicans or Democrats who dug up this
story and got it into the press, because they're both
out to bring him down, because it depends on the
state and where he takes more from Trump or Biden.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
A New York doctor at New York Presbyterian Hospital believe
the abnormality was caused by a worm that got into
the brain and ate a portion of it and then died.
Kennedy said, in a transcribed interview, I have cognitive problems, clearly,
he said. I have short term memory loss and I
have long term memory loss that affects me. If you're
an actual candidate for Democrats and Republicans, you're done at
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that point. Oh yeah, you can't see. I got cognitive problems.
I can't remember short term or long term and be
president and Trump is I'm sorry. And Biden clearly has
cognitive problems, right, But this guy, but he's denying it.
We all see it. Rfk Jr. We see it, and
he's saying it.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
We have at least three hundred million people in America
who don't have cognitive problems.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Can we choose from one of them? Yeah, that'd be
a good idea. Armstrong and Getty
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
During for President Trump's criminal hutch money trial, adult film
stars Stormy Daniels testified that she spanked Trump with a
rolled up magazine that had.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
His face on the cover.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
And I think it's weird that the hotel even had
a copy of Bankruptcy Aficionado.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So we talked about the Stormy Daniel straw. But this
aspect of it all day long drove me crazy. Portraying
it as when she'd had enough of his arrogance, she
actually told me needed to stop and hit him with
a magazine.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
That is flirting. That's what that was. That was a.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Pretty girl saying, oh no, you don't and spanks him
with a magazine. I'd be thinking, well, I'm getting lucky exactly.
That was an overture of I'm kind of into you
and available. That was not a He was so arrogant
and she put him in his place. As they portrayed
it on cable news all day long, do you actually
believe that if you never flirted before? Wow? Is that
(01:16):
willful ignorance? Servisender an astonishing level of naivete.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Of course, if it's young journalists.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Young people don't couple, they don't flirt, they're terrified to.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
It's kind of sad, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
My favorite moment, favorite moment, that's an interesting way to
put it, of watching news coverage yesterday was the intro
to ABC News with David Muir, in which he said,
and I should ask for the audio, but this will
be close enough. Deadly tornadoes continue to spread across the Midwest.
Lives have been lost, and the threat continues. But first
(01:52):
adult film star Stormy Daniels testified in the Trump trial. Right,
Oh seriously, I just I wonder that too, if that
was Wilfer ignant. Sure, they actually don't know. If a
hot chick walks up to a rich guy and says,
nice tide, does that come with a volume control? That's
not putting him in his place? That was an overture
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of flirting.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
All right, that's the way the game works.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Goodness, we have so much to squeeze in this hour
and the whole show. Hoping stay tuned, but man, we
ran this clip once and got so much reaction somebody
requests to hear it again.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We thought, all right, why not?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Jared Bernstein is the voice you're gonna hear responding to
a question. He is the Chairman of the of the
President's Economic Advisory Council. He is the Chief Economic Advisor
to the President of the United States, Joseph R.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Biden, d Delaware.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
And it's amazing, Michael, like you said, they print the dollar,
So why does the government even borrow?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Well, the the I mean again, some of this stuff
gets some of the language that the some of the
language and concepts are just confusing. I mean, the government
definitely prints money, and it definitely lends that money. Which
is why the government definitely prints money, and then it
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lends that money by selling bonds.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Is that what they do?
Speaker 6 (03:22):
They they.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, they they sell bonds.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Yeah, they sell bonds, right, since they sell bonds and
people buy the bonds and lend them the money.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
So a lot of times, a lot of times, at
least to my year with MMT, the language and the
concepts can be kind of unnecessarily confusing, But there is
no question that the government prints money and then it
uses that money to So yeah, I guess I'm just
(03:55):
I don't I can't really talk.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I don't. I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
I don't know what they're talking about, like, because it's
like the government clearly prints money, it does it all
the time, and it clearly borrows. Otherwise we wouldn't be
having this debt and death at conversation. So I don't
think there's anything confusing there.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And what's his position again, he's the chairman of the
Council of Economic Advisors.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Does anybody have any questions?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
So when we first played that, and when I first
heard the first part of it, I thought, Okay, this
is a guy that's just so in the weeds and
so knowledgeable.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
He's trying to figure out how to dumb it down.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Is to coarse, but you know, just to present it
in a way that a layman can understand it. But
then it becomes completely clear when he starts saying, is
that right, I don't know that's a good that he
actually doesn't know that was just bizarre. He makes reference
to MMT, which, if you're not familiar with it, it's
modern monetary theory. It is a fringe left AOC theory
(04:52):
that governments can go into as much debt as they
want to just keep spending and spending because you can
always grow the economy fast than your interest payments, and
that gets everybody employed. It's it's super popular with green
new dealers. But man, it is a fringe way of
looking at But how is that an economic advisor of
any kind who who answers a question like that? The
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only answer I can come up with, and I'm not
sure it's a great one, but is that he didn't
want to say, plainly, we spend more than we take
in and borrow the balance because that's how we buy votes.
We're just we're just spending money to stay in power,
and we'll have to pay it back eventually. But as
long as it doesn't happen on our watch, as long
(05:36):
as the disaster, the foreclosure doesn't happen on our watch,
we don't care. I don't know if you're right, or
if you're giving him too much credit. It's possible that
he just had the right politics and so they put
him in that position and he's actually not good at
his job, like he's a major donor or something I
don't know, or tied to the right people.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I don't know. Yeah, that was that was crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It is.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
That's the second time I heard it, and it's just
as a You.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Are an expert in this, that's your answer. Where are
the adults? All right? I gotta move on.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I don't say about that. I got I want to
tease this because I'm gonna get to it later. Elections matter, folks,
Elections matter. This is the most election of our lifetime.
This is the most election of our lifetime. You can't
argue with that. She me, literally, you can't.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
She might be the future president.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Don't you threaten me like that. I'm gonna get to
this later. I heard I heard this on NPR, so
I had to look up the details. I just heard
the tease on NPR. I didn't hear them do the story.
What's the cash value of being white? A nobel economist
has come up with it, and you're gonna find it annoying.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I'm already annoyed. Boy. That's great.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It gets too because we talked about this the other day.
It's similar to the I remember the name of the
term the tax, the uh, the passion passion tax, which
I also heard about on NPR, which.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I've never heard of before. But I looked it up
and it's a thing. It's the idea that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The Marxists or people who don't believe in capitalism or whatever,
believe that if you like your job, you're paying a
passion tax and you don't even know it, because you're
probably working for less than you would work for if
you didn't like your job.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Right, that's the passion tax.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
The difference between working a job you hate where they'd
have to pay you more and working a job you
love where you probably put in more hours and are
willing to take less pay.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's the passion tax.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
And you are being stolen from by your employer through
the passion tax, and.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
You don't even know it.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Oh No, somehow, taking liking a job and turning it
into a negative right really quite an amazing feat. The
thing about that philosophy, and I think it's more popular
than mine, is that it assumes life just happens to you,
that you're a you're of always a victim, that just
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life drains on you like well rain not.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
One of my better metaphors, and.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
There's nothing you can do about it except to enact
millions and millions and millions of rules to prevent anything
bad from ever happening. Whereas our philosophy, I'm sure you
share mine.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Is is that?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
No, no, no, Take hold of your life and live it.
Accept the bad hops except that some people are bastards
and they're gonna cheat you and the rest of it.
But you are the captain of your ship. Life doesn't
happen to you. You happen a life. Go get it.
There'll be set backs, there'll be you'll be screwed. We've
been screwed. Uh, but just you know, leave that behind
(08:46):
you and figure out. Ah, I'm gonna move on sadder.
But why is our next guy comes along trying to
screw me like that? He's gonna f what do they say.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
F A f O?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yes, exactly, Well we'll call it. It's of course of philosophy.
Fart around and find out right. Come on, isn't that
a much more exciting way to live your life than Oh?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I really like what I do. So I think I'm
being cheated.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Well, there's that aspect of it, and then there's just
that's factually true.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I mean, if if my job was gonna be digging
holes all day long instead of this, you'd have to
pay me a hell of a lot. Yeah, I mean
a lot, a lot before I quit this job and
start digging holes for a living.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And with my back you're not gonna like my productivity,
but so I'm better off with that.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Then the I'm paying the passion tax because I like
this job, so I'd do it for less. But then
NPR would have a featurette on how you're getting the
abuse bonus and that you are the victim of the
abuse bonus, because the whole point is to portray everybody
as a victim. Yeah, I mean, you got to really
(09:58):
work hard when you start going with the passion tax
and what I again, google it. There's a lot of
writing about it, a lot of people talking about it.
That Reddit thread of anti work. I'm sure it comes
up on that regularly. This this world where you're being
screwed in every which way, including if you like your
job is weird, and if you like your job kind
(10:21):
of but don't like it a ton and you're getting
paid more than you would if you love it. But
let's you're getting the neutrality kneecapp. That's how it works.
You're just always a victim no matter what happens, and
so you've got to give them power to fix it
for you. It's the meh Man handling I'm kind of
(10:43):
meh about my job, but.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Oh, you're the victim of the me man handling. That
is hilarious. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I hope you're not paying the passion tax by liking
your job, right, and you go in on the weekend
and work more because you know you'd actually do that
in your free time. You like your job so much.
That's the passion tax, you know. I was just going
to say, the number of people who see life the
way you do, my friends and we do, is way, way, way, way,
way more than you would think given media and education
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and entertainment, which are the three headed monster of passivism
and progressivism. You're right, your way of looking at the
world is right. Be proud of it, be an advocate
for it strongly. It was funny. I was taking in
some lefty media just to figure out what arguments I'm
going up against today, and I heard back to back
(11:39):
NPR portraying the college anti Israel protests as a ground
swell of the true feeling of millions of Americans.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I got polling on that that would show that's not true. Oh,
it's utterly false. It's fictional.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Meanwhile, was it The New York Times or the Biden
administration themselves were claiming, no, this is very, very few
people are actually radicals camps.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
That was the New York Times article.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
It's a last on the list of issues young people
care about. Yeah, yeah, how distorted a view we get
of America through our media. So the cops came out
and cleared out George Washington University's campments encampments last night.
I don't know if they've gotten the Kafia off the
statue at George Washington yet.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Which is obscene. How do we permit that is obscene?
That's happened.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But they took the the the charity Tree of Truth
to the wooden teeth of protests or something like that.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
But we can get into that among other things.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
At WOOF just as OOF a lot more on the
way stay with us.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
Anyone that's using swipe to text, most likely millennial, possibly
gen Z. Anyone that's able to type fast and accurately
with one hand, We're going to say, probably pre teen
to age twenty five I being fast and accurately with
two thumbs again, probably mid twenties, mid thirties. Even you'll
kind of stay at this thumb tapping age until probably
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about i'd say fifties, then you're gonna start adding in
your your index finger unnecessarily. Age sixty five plus is
where you start doing the one finger tap, holding with
your left hand.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Or your right hand.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
You're getting up there when you're doing that.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I just don't think that's true.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I think the one hand or two hands depends on
the size of your phone, because I've had the smaller
phone where I can reach everything with my thumb, and
then I've had the bigger phone where I got to
use both thumbs. Yeah, I see young people. I've sat
next to lots of young people on planes or whatever,
and they're using both thumbs. Go to the the can
go faster than me. Definitely, my youngest who enjoys teasing me.
(13:49):
At one point, I'm voice texting and she says, oh,
it is so boomer really, I'm like, honey, it's saving
me time. Really, So young people don't voice TX almost
exclusive voice text.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I've not had that substantiated by like a committee of
youthful people. But she's she probably knows. But that's interesting
to me that they don't voice text. They see it
as faster to use your thumbs.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Katie or cooler voice. Texting when not in.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
The car or through your Apple Watch is a little
it's boomer.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Huh, it's a little little boomer. If you're among people.
Is that what you mean here?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (14:27):
I mean if you're standing in a group of people
and you pull out your phone and you start firing
off a text, you know, text to voice.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, oh you. I don't care if I'm a boomer.
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Actually I'm a gen Z, but as a gen X
gen X said, but as a friend, I'm not gen Z.
A gen X, but as a friend said to me.
But you present boomer and I do a fair enough.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Okay, Boomer, what time is it? Well, we have time
for a couple of stories.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
This is what we affectionately call behind the scenes bingo
bango bonga. We got a bunch of stuff worthy of
a mention in a quick discussion. Anyway, you are you
hip to Saudi Arabia's GNEM project. I think that's how
you pronounce it. It's a MSB's insane development that's going
(15:15):
to turn Saudi Arabia not into an oil desert shake them,
but like a modern twenty second century hub of all
sorts of stuff. His idea is a skyscraper and I
can't remember how high is it supposed to be. It's
taller than the Empire State Building, and it's going to
(15:37):
be one hundred and five miles wide. Taller than the
Empire State Building, but one hundred and five miles wide
or one hundred and five miles long, if you would
like to describe it like that.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
It's going to house nine million people.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
It's what it's known as the Line, and it's the
flags of this unimaginably ambitious Gnohm project.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So I know he's.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Big on as a guy who's in his early thirties,
he's big on the the US being rich because the.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Oil ain't gonna last forever. Have you heard of electric cars?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
We got to come up with a new way to be,
you know something, or we're gonna we're doomed.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
So that's pretty smart right right now.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
The first phase, by twenty thirty, was supposed to be
ten miles of this Empire State Building.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
How do you get your wall of China thing y?
How do you get your camel in the elevator? Oh? Unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
But now they're realizing that the country is spending far
more than it's taking in costs have exploded because building
costs are up like forty percent globally, and so now
they're just going to build one point five miles of
the structure by twenty thirty, which is I mean, that's
you know, a sixth of what they were talking about.
But wait a minute, you got a skyscraper a mile
(17:00):
and a half long, and that's the scaled back not
as ambitious.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Excuse me.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
First step, speaking of Bingo Banngo, what Stormy Daniels explained
in the courtroom yesterday and some of the legal analysis
of that, mostly Bongo, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 9 (17:22):
The likelihood there will be a trial in the Classified
Documents case before the election is fading fast. Just Alan
Kennon has officially taken a May twenty trial day off
the calendar, saying there were too many pre trial motions
and legal issues to resolve before trial could go forward.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
This delay makes it all but certain a.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
Classified Documents case will not go to trial before the election.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
So we're going to talk about the Stormy Daniels case,
but wanted to play that first to make the point
that this is going to be it. Remember, there was
like four trials are more that looked like they were
going to happen leading up to the election. Now this
one is it the Stormy Daniels thing, which is a
misnaming of the thing, going to say, this is the
misdemeanor business records fraud, election finance, business fraud. But this
(18:10):
is the only one that's going to happen. So the
classified documents, which he's guilty of obstruction part anyway, probably
he is.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
That one ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
And the January sixth stuff, they can't even do anything
until the Supreme Court rules on the question of community immunity, right, right,
So that's not going to happen. When in George old
Fanny Willis couldn't keep her thighs together, So that one's over.
That was unnecessarily frank I enjoyed it, but it was unnecessary.
(18:42):
So in case you missed this, mattress actress, pornographer Stormy
Daniels testified for some reason yesterday in the Trump business
records finance, false business.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Four hour work case.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So far and there's more to come tomorrow, yes, and
they are going to indeed cross examiner further tomorrow. I
don't know if she can take on two guys at
the same time. Okay, hoh man, Katie.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
What do you think of that? Like, I think she could.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Any green weighing in, But we have anelyses from a
variety of commentators. Let's start with the man himself, Trump
and thirty three, please, Michael.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
So, this was a very big day, day.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Very very big day.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
As you've seen, their case is totally falling apart. They
have nothing on books and records and even something that
should bear a very little relationship to the case. Just
a disaster for the DA sorta. D's a disaster all cases,
just a disaster.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So he didn't get into the specifics. I still say
the media is completely wrong. I don't know if they
know it or not, but the analysis of this had
to be a very uncomfortable day for Donald Trump to
have the whole world here. I guarantee you he's thrilled
to have people know that he slept with the twenty
six year old body.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
He's not embarrassed. He loves having his friends know this.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
And as a defendant sitting there watching the prosecution's case,
just go down cul de Sac after cul de Sac.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, and then okay.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So more nallis is this is from Alyssa Farroh Griffin,
who's a Trump fan, And we're gonna get some Trump
critics coming up, and you can decide who you find
more persuasive.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
But forty Michael, and I want to say this, I'm
not an attorney. I know Republican voters, I know the
Republican public. I'm a bit stunned that the prosecution leans
so heavily into the salacious details about the sexual encounter
rather than talking about who Stormy Daniels is. I interviewed
her recently. She's a mother, she's been nearly bankrupted because
(20:57):
of her former attorney now being Trump's legal bills. She's
who could be a very sympathetic figure who also could
have credibility, and I think to really lean into that
side of it, I don't know that that's going to
play well with a jury. This was something that you know,
took place in two thousand and six. She was twenty
seven years old, he was sixty. That data point matters.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
That's actually it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
That's actually a really good point if she'd just stayed
away from what sexual position they were in, which she
actually mentioned, and that sort of stuff and just gone
with Look, I mean that was a part of my life.
But I'm a mom now and I have no money
because I you know, I had an affair with a
married man, and that has ruined me. That that's a
(21:41):
much better angle than the what he was wearing and
how I flirted with him and what sexual position wear in.
You missed your calling because while that made me sick,
that characterization, I mean she sought the profit over again,
that would have been way better. It still would have
been wildly irrelevant, but it would have been more sympathetic.
(22:05):
Here is Lisa Rubin on MSNBC trying to convince us
that anything.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Leason, Lisia, I love you, Alicia.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Did a different woman, Michael, different woman two.
Speaker 10 (22:19):
At a technical level, I understand what they're saying, But
on another level, it has everything to do with what's
being charged here. So what do they have to do?
They have to work backwards to convince the jury Donald
Trump had every motive and incentive not only to do
the deal, but to cover it up. How do you
convince the jury that he had every mode of an incentive.
You here, forgive the pun straight from the horse's mouth.
(22:40):
What that interactions like? And for her, this was a
traumatic incident It recasts Donald Trump from sort of the
womanizer that we understood this episode to be about, to
the predator that the Access Hollywood tape made him out
to be. It completely reinforces a frame of him that
(23:00):
was existing in the political dialogue at the time, and
makes all the more credible why Donald Trump and Michael
Cohen and all of their underlings would work so hard
to conceal the true nature of the payment, disguise it
instead as legal services and invoices pursuant to a retainer agreement,
something that debor pterosophag.
Speaker 11 (23:21):
So Katie's sporting hair. What look she went to the
hotel room. It stops there. She wasn't hog tied and
carried there. She went to the hotel room and knew exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
What was going to happen.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I've seen Hogtide in Alabama, Hogtied in high school.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I think was the movie she was in. So she
has been hogtipe, but not now for instance, not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Not only that, Katie, but as we discussed earlier, she
was in Tahoe for the celebrity golf tournament to hook
up with rich celebrities and get paid for it.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Was she there to ski friends.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Was she there because she's so you're a big fan
of the game of golf.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
She's a hiker, Yeah, big hiker.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Great, Scott, Lisa Rubin, What a great example of a
professional liar. This really goes to the heart of the case.
Why they'd be motivated. It's been stipulated. As they say
in the world of law. Everybody agrees Trump paid her off.
Whether they got it on or not is entirely irrelevant.
(24:26):
It's a it's a case about keeping records over where
that money went and why that her whether what position
are you kidding me? But even back to the soap
opera part of it, the sex part of it, the
fact that she specifically said a number of times, I
wasn't drugged, I wasn't forced. I willingly did this, okay,
(24:48):
Like Katie said, Okay, so you went up to the room,
he's in his pajamas. You want to He wouldn't force you.
He made it clear he wanted to have sex and
you want ahead and did okay. So where's the story
on this? Straight at the heart of the case from
the horse's mouth and.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
This whole other thing about her being a mother and
painting herself the prosecutor didn't ask her what position they
had sex, and she offered that information up.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
That would have been a weird question.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
Willingly dropping all of these bizarre like details on us
without being asked.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
If I'm a approach to witness whereas one leg behind
your head or both? All right, I must jump in
here and call for Harvard professor Alan Dershowitz, Clip forty three.
Speaker 12 (25:31):
Well, first of all, it was clear reversible era today
committed by the judge and by the prosecution under the
reasoning of the recently reversed Harvey Weinstein case.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
So much information.
Speaker 12 (25:42):
Came out that was utterly irrelevant. Let's start with whether
they had sex at all, utterly irrelevant. The only issue
is whether she threatened to expose him, and whether she
extorted him, and whether he then paid money to avoid
the embarrassment to his family, to his business, to his children, and,
according to the prosecution, to help himself get reelected. The
(26:05):
issue of what actually happened is utterly irrelevant. And then
we get to the details, the silk pajamas, the kind
of lotion he was wearing.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 12 (26:16):
How the Court of Appeals in New York that reversed
the Harvey Weinstein condition, which was a harder case to reverse,
wouldn't reverse this conviction if it got up there. I
would certainly recommend to the prosecutors in this case that
they study the Weinstein case very carefully, because it gives
a road map to what you can't do, and this
(26:38):
prosecutor is just following the roadmap of what you can't do.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
So that was on Fox News. Obviously commentary fairly sympathetic
to the Trump team. As Jack mentioned earlier, Jake Tapper
on the lead on CNN, has been doing a pretty
even handed job in the trial, getting to what Dershowitz
just referenced, the sexual positions, all that sort of stuff.
The judge actually said there were some things that probably
would have been better left unsaid. The fact that the
(27:05):
judge said that, yes, and the defense said, yeah, so
many things, so often, your honor, we need a mistrial,
And he said, I don't think we're at the point
where a mistrial is justified. Andy said there are things
that probably shouldn't have been said. Uh oh, oh, your
dishonor before we get to the home run ball that
is the next clip. Now, Katie, I know we we
(27:29):
I think we've inferred, and we've inferred your point of
view over the last twenty four hours on this. But
do you think most how do you think most women
this strikes them? Do most women feel like Stormy's a
victim of something? Do you think or or she knew
what she was doing?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I sure don't. I don't think they think she's a victim.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
I mean, this is a common sense situation where she
knew what was going to happen, and it's I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Well her graphy star.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
Yeah, and a stripper wanted to be on the Apprentice
and gets invited to the hotel room in goes This
is not a victim situation.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, the testimony where she says he held the being
on the Apprentice out there as bait.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
There was a power imbalance. Okay, that's on you.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
We got a text about that that I thought was funny.
Can the girl who the rock star left in her
hometown and didn't take her on a whirlwind romance tour
after a night of love and now sue the rock star?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Wow? I mean this sort of thing happens.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Where you know, I thought I was gonna be the
wife of bon Jobe. Turns out he just wanted to
sleep with me shocking. One of my favorite Rolling Stones albums,
Tattoo You from way Back in the Day. One of
the lines on one of my favorite songs, every girl
gets the same, come on, I'm gonna make you a
star please Anyway, Jake Tamper doing a pretty good job.
(28:51):
This tape is descriptive, and it includes the unfortunate phrase
of the Day clip forty eight.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Michael.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
At times, Stormy Daniels have here really quite tense when
facing questions from Trump's defense team.
Speaker 13 (29:05):
Yeah, we knew this was going to be unpleasant. I
mean they got her to admit that, yes, she hates
the defendant. She has said that she would quote dance
if you went to jail. She always him hundreds of
thousands of dollars as a result of other litigation, And
they pulled up a tweet where she said she doesn't
want to pay that quote orange turd a single dime.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
There it was the OT, Oh May oh, May.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Do you think that using ot Katie makes her more
sympathetic to women? She slept with it a shore, good one,
good boy, you slept with the OT.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I prefer fornicated, but to teach their own.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, you're right, because there was no probably little sleeping
at all.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, I do not feel rested. Yeah, this is not
nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Rob Petrie and Laura are not sleeping in separate twin
beds in the world anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
All Right, she banged the ot there, you go. Wow,
Well he's o t but he might get me on TV.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
So let's do this. Oh, come on, let's be adults here.
Gotten she's twenty six and he's sixty. Oh I know,
I mean, yeah, he's a fat old man. You're twenty
six years old. You had sex with him. You probably
practically literally held your nose and had sex with him
because you thought you were going to become famous for it.
And we're supposed to feel sympathetic to this for some reason.
(30:25):
Keeping in mind, as Joe has pointed out, and lots
of lawyers have. This has got nothing to do with it.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
Anyway, She goes to his hotel room and goes, I
think I misread the situation.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah, well I can sense. I have a psychic connection
with the audience, and I sense that you're annoyed, you're disgusted,
you're just demoralized by this whole ugly episode. But some
of you are holding out. Some of you are saying,
I'm not completely demoralized and disgusted yet.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Oh yeah, take this in, friend.
Speaker 13 (30:56):
I don't want to sound like I'm doing wishful thinking.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yes, but which prison would be best? What about?
Speaker 12 (31:05):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Close tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
That's the view joking about which prison Trump is going
to end up in for his misdemeanor reporting campaign legal
campaign misdemeanor. Well, he'd charges He's not going to end
up in jail for that, but he certainly could end
up in jail for contempt at court, as the judge
threatened the other day. And New York City Mayor Eric
(31:29):
Adams said yesterday that Rikers is ready for Trump if
they need to do that.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Oh really yeah, yeah wow, So that could happen.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I mean that, And like we've been talking about, I
think Trump might be wanting that to happen.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I would I would.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Love to write for Trump the very brief statement that
gets him jailed. We don't really have time to get
into my rough draft here, but I would love that.
You made the point of the day. I think Katie
you you you laid down with vot if I mean
use biblically turn Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
So at her own will.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, and you can admit it in your
own free will, so you could get on the apprentice.
You you laid with the ot, happy with yourself. Any
comment on any of this text line four one five
two nine five k f TC Armstrong and get.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Source Shuan, for this was a human place. It is
not yours.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
The elders did not tell us everything about this world.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, okay, that's the that's the new Planet of the
Apes movie. I forget which the name of that one
is a Planet of the Apes goes to Halloo or
meets Fonsie or I don't remember what it is beers
than ever. My twelve year old is super into the
Planet of the Apes movies and they are really really good.
(33:10):
It's just it seems like a new one comes out
every three months, is the only problem. I feel like
I've watched like five of them in the last year.
Really maybe it just feels that way. But the new
one that then they're they're set in San Francisco, which
is kind of cool, or they have been.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I don't know about this new one.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
But Caesar, the main character, is long dead and his
grandson discovers something about.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
The planet or something.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I don't know, but anyway, I'm sure it's in theaters Friday,
and I'm sure I will be at the movie theater
watching it, maybe.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
At the Imax.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Sounds to me like the apes are settler colonialists taking
over human land.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
They kind of are.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
RFK Juniors said doctors found a dead worm in his
head after an eight part of his brain.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
That story is out today.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
It was claimed in a deposition taken more than a
decade ago as part of a divorce proceeding. RFK Junior,
now seventy, made the admission during his twenty twenty twelve
divorce proceeding, detailing cognitive problems after finding out that a
worm had he eaten part of his brain away. This
(34:12):
is so gross and freaky. Is there any end to
the number of weird things that get attached to RFK Junior?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I mean, he's not like getting less out there as
we get closer. It's like, Yeah, it's hard to know
whether it was Republicans or Democrats who dug up this
story and got it into the press, because they're both
out to bring him down, because it depends on the
state and where he takes more from Trump or Biden.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
A New York doctor at New York Presbyterian Hospital believe
the abnormality was caused by a worm that got into
the brain and ate a portion of it and then died.
Kennedy said, in a transcribed interview, I have cognitive problems, clearly,
he said. I have short term memory loss and I
have long term memory loss that affects me. If you're
an actual candidate for Democrats and Republicans, you're done at
(35:09):
that point. Oh yeah, you can't see. I got cognitive problems.
I can't remember short term or long term and be
president and Trump is I'm sorry. And Biden clearly has
cognitive problems, right, But this guy, but he's denying it.
We all see it. Rfk Jr. We see it, and
he's saying it.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
We have at least three hundred million people in America
who don't have cognitive problems.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Can we choose from one of them? Yeah, that'd be
a good idea. Armstrong and Getty
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