May 9, 2024 • 35 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- Stormy Courtroom Update...
- Biden touts his "success" with the economy...
- The election year White House PR job on providing weapons for Israel...
- Stormy Daniels courtroom update!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty Show.
At times, Stormy Daniels appeared really quite tense when facing
questions from Trump's defense team.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, we knew this was going to be unpleasant. I mean,
they got her to admit that, yes, she hates the defendant.
She has said that she would quote dance if you
went to jail. She always him hundreds of thousands of
dollars as a result of other litigation, And they pulled
up a tweet where she said she doesn't want to
pay that quote orange turd.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
A single dime. Well that's from the other day, classy.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I expect better than that from my porn stars, orange Turd.
So they took the day off yesterday, and Stormy Daniels
back on the stand today, keeping mind, of course that
almost none of this has anything to do with the trial.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
But for some reason, she's on the stand continuing. Now
she's being cross examined by Trump's lawyers and they're going
after her hard on a number of different things. Katie,
what have you seen so far? Oh? Boy, what haven't
I seen? Watching this?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Looks like right now they are talking about Stormy Daniels
not having any dinner.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
When this whole hotel room thing happened.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Apparently she went on Kimmel and was making jokes about
she was holding out in the hotel room for dinner
but never got any food, and they're really jumping on
her over that right now. And also Trump's attorney asked
Stormy Daniels about her experience and making porn films and said, quote,
you have a lot of experience and making phony stories
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about sex appear to be real.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Oh good line.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Wow, And Stormy responded, That's not how I would put it.
The sex in the films is very much real, just
like what happened to me in that room.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
What happened to me. There's the victim line. It happened
to me. I went there by choice. I'm not claiming
I that he did anything under ord er anything like that,
but it happened to me. Okay, So that's a slight
change in the direction.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I'd meant to interject this before we even got rolling,
and I was tied up and doing something else, so
I'll interject it now. There might be a few of
y'all who are like, why are you guys making a
big deal of this? And part of it's just that
it's fun. It's I mean, it's like a TV style
courtroom drama, like most courtrooms never are, so it's just
(02:30):
flat fun. But more importantly, there are over thirty thousand,
three hundred district attorneys in the United States, over thirty thousand.
The idea that any single one of those could look
at the party he doesn't like and say, all right,
it's looking like Smith is going to be the candidate.
(02:53):
I am gonna Smith did some business in my town once.
I'm gonna cook up some charges that probably won't get
a conviction, but they'll keep him in court for weeks
so he can't campaign. I'm gonna file those charges. The
idea that's something that horrible could catch hold in America.
It's a nightmare. It's a constitutional nightmare. I want to
(03:14):
see it fall apart now because I'm a huge Trump fan.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
But if this catches hold and becomes common, we are screwed.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You are right about that. But here's a hilarious note.
Last night, on the day Trump had off, what did
he do when he got the opportunity to campaign? He
had a big dinner at mar A Lago for the
investors in his NFT card thing, you know where he
dresses like a race car driver or a cowboy or whatever.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Oh, dinner, he had dinner for the people that invested it.
I had such a role going. That's what he did
with his day off the campaign.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Nonetheless, if I may return to my serious own, Okay,
so I picked up on this. I get what's going
on here, Katie, and I didn't. I don't know when
Storby Daniels started trying to portray what happened in Trump's
room is a dinner, because that gets her off the
hook for why did you go to the room? Right
If she claims it was a dinner, I wasn't just
going to a guy's hotel room where of course, if
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a guy invites you to his hotel room, you got
to at least be thinking perhaps he's gonna make a
move on me. She said they were gonna have dinner,
but no food was served. So that's what Trump's lawyers
are beating her up over, is like, how is this
a dinner if there is no food showing up at
any point?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But I'll still hang around and have sex with you
to get on the Apprentice. That's what happened to me.
The jury has just got to be thinking, this woman
makes used car salesman look credible. Why is the prosecution
insulting my intelligence by asking me to believe this pile
(04:50):
of crap?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well this is pretty good. So Trump's lawyer is this
is the way the time New York Times is presenting it.
Trump's lawyer is is doing this parsing of words. Over
was at a dinner? Was their food? Desire is saying,
because Daniels has told her story in many places, many
different times. I mean, she's done a gazillion interviews, you know,
radio Howard Stern, sixty minutes, you know, all kinds of
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different magazines, tweets about it. Over because this happened in
two thousand and six, is that right the date? Or
two thousand and seven. It's a long time ago? Wow,
damn near twenty years ago. Anyway, She's told the story
many places and many times, as in The New York
Times says, and invariably there will be alterations in each recounting,
and defense lawyers just love it when the witnesses have
(05:35):
given multiple accounts of the same event.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah, Yeah, watching a note from The New York Times.
This is a quote because you know, they add in
their little opinions or little clickbait things, the defense's attempt
to color Daniels as nutty and slutty, as a constant
nutty and slutty, nutty and slutty.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
That's what a guy's A lot of guys are looking for. Hmm,
come on, gotta say, be better than that. I'm delighted
that this is falling apart.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
That reminds me one time. I'm this is quite a
few years ago, but I'm outside in the town. I
live in big college town. It's kind of late at
night on a Friday night, and there was a whole
bunch of dudes. I mean, they had the frat bro vibe.
I don't know if they're frat bros, but but anyway,
they're going down the street and they're chanting. They're clapping
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them in the channing. So what do we want a
girl with low self esteem? What do we want now? Boy? Wow,
I'm high and uh And the female companion I was
with the time said, and they'll find one. Oh, that's
so tawdry. It is tawdrey and true. Nutty and sluddy
(06:47):
your honor, I'm calling for a recess.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Anything else we ought to know, Katie about the cross
examination at this point or.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
On that note, they did.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Trump's attorney did ask if they were going to go
to break and the judge said, we're going to go
a little while longer.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, yeah, there's still we need a real recess like
with Teeter Totters and Swings. I mean, it's like a
full break there.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Can you imagine if well, if Chicago was conservative, which
it hasn't been since Mayor Daily sent in the night
Sticks on the Hippies in nineteen sixty eight, it would
be effortless to cook up charges against Obama, who lived
and worked and did business, his wife had her no
show job or fake job at the hospital and everything.
It would be effortless to cook up some sort of
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charge against Obama while he was campaigning.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
This is so dangerous.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
And the fact that well, let's measure of the times
we're living in, but the fact that very few lefty
or even you know, centrist media outlets are reckoning with
how awful this is is. It's another example of one
of the of something I said the other day. If
we're okay with this as a society, we deserve whatever
(07:57):
fate awaits us.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
We're debaut Well, what they're talking about on this stand
is certainly debauched. That whole evening, Joe Biden gave an
interview to CNN. He said a lot of stuff about
Israel and withholding the bombs from him. He also made
some economic claims that were just flat out bogus, and
CNN called him out on it. And Katie, if the
(08:20):
human trampoline says anything else interesting, bring it to us
right away. I'll jump right by God all on the way, Armstrong.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
And why should people here believe that you will succeed
at creating jobs where Trump failed?
Speaker 6 (08:40):
He's never succeeded in creating jobs, and I've never failed.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
That's the idea that presidents create jobs to start with.
And then secondly, as we know, Joe Biden takes credit
for all the jobs coming back after the pandemic, which
is just hilariously intellectually disingenuous. I mean, just it's so
far over the top.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It's hard to uh weigh that and the stormy Daniel's
testimony and to figure out which one more people would
buy now.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So he did an interview with CNN one of his
rare actual sit down having to answer question interviews with
Aaron Burnett on CNN yesterday. The most important stuff was
the stuff about the withholding the bombs from Israel and RAFA.
We'll get to that again later. I think that is
gonna it's it's hard to know what's the worst things
he's done in his presidency. I hope I don't get
another term to add to it. The pull out from
(09:30):
Afghanistan like historically horrible, bailing out the student loans historically
horrible and unfair and costing us what is the total
going to be? How many trillions of dollars? And done constitutional? Yeah,
the border, I mean just absolutely historically awful. But the
withholding the bombs from Israel, not letting them go after
(09:53):
somebody who's help been on killing them all is amazing
to me. But this stuff on the economy is worth
pointing out because he said something so incredibly untrue. Not
just like your usual spin like you just heard here,
but this here's Joe Biden part of the interview.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Although GDP last week was far short of expectations, ah wasn't.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Look GDP's still grow.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Look at the response to the markets overwhelmingly positive. No,
president's had the run we've had in terms of creating
jobs and bending down and fishing was nine percent when
I came to office. Nine percent.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
What about?
Speaker 5 (10:25):
I mean, but there's real pain. I mean, grocery prices
are up thirty percent, more than thirty percent since the
beginning of the pandemic, and people are spending more on
food and groceries than they have at any time really
in the past thirty years. I mean, that's a real
day to day pain that people.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
No, No, it really is, and it's real.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
But the fact is that if you take a look
at what them people have, they have the money to spend.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah. So their analyst right after the interview, John God
what is his name? Flips out of my head. He's
been there with CNN forever anyway. His analysis was, he said,
I'm gonna have to push back on the president here.
I travel around and talk to voters all the time.
They're going to be very angry with this interview as
he tells them, No, things are fine, You're just interpreting wrong.
(11:13):
That is not how people feel. I mean. CNN really
pushed back hard on that then to the specifics which
they didn't push back on. But when he said inflation
was nine percent when I came to office, I thought
it was That doesn't sound right. No, it was one
point four percent when he came into office. One point
four to nine. You're quibbling. So inflation was nine percent
(11:37):
when I came into office and we've brought it down
since then, or it was one point four percent. You
passed those several trillion dollar deals that even lefty Larry
Summers said was going to cause inflation. It did. And
uh yeah, So I missed that interview.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I'm so glad we got that audio because that is
something It strikes me. He's so bad dad at being president.
At this point he explained that so poorly. I mean
the mumbling, the lack of force, that the just lack
of coherence.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
His tone is so wrong.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It reminds me of his awful, awful explanation of what
he's doing to Israel right now. He's just spent as
a human anyway. But back to the economics of it.
I came across this clip. This is Adrian L. Rod,
who's one of the campaigns spokespeople. Listen carefully to what
she says. I will interpret it it's fifty three, Michael,
(12:31):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Contrast is so clear. How do you explain Trump.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Being up in most, if not all, of the swing
states in this country, the seven or eighty that will
decide things come November.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Well, a lot of voters are.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Not tuning in the look. As much as I would
would love to think that a lot of voters are
watching cable news all day, a lot of them are not.
They're living their every day lives. And I think when
you see more voters tune in, understand what's at stake.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You know, look at.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
President Biden's economic record, what he's delivered for American families,
what he will continue to deliver.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Let me interpret, people have gotten the idea they're miserable
from their real lives. What we need them to do
is tune into cable TV so we can convince them otherwise,
and to mistrust their eyes and ears and checkbooks.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, and that's not gonna go to work.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Even John King, that's his name from CNN. Even John
King had to jump in and say, that's not what
voters are telling me. Inflation is killing him and it's
still really, really bad. So I can't believe that he's
still going with the what your feeling and seeing is wrong. Yes,
look at the stock market. Okay, that's not listen to
(13:43):
these statistics. Yeah, so I can't believe they're not doing that.
I mean Bill Clinton would have fully just embraced you
know that. I feel your pain thing. It's awful. I
feel it every day myself. We're working on it every day.
I don't know how people get by. Hurts my heart
to think how a family of four out there tries
to no tell them they're wrong, but what they're feeling
(14:05):
is wrong.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, we're choosing between groceries and our kids' sports teams.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Now you're wrong.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Inflation is down. And then at the very beginning of
the interview, they did that line of questioning, blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah. You're down in all
these polls. How do you explain being so far down
to Trump? And these poles? He said, polling, what you
would do? I look at these poles and how many
people did you survey? Twelve hundred people and most of
them you can't even get on the phone. And the
modern heress of polling is everybody knows pollings so he
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was doing the whole pos polls are wrong act at
which every politician does when they're behind. When they're ahead,
they act like they're you know, from Moses himself, now
the depressing punchline. And yet they're tied, yet their tide
and he goes both directions on that. Oh boy. But
the really egregious one is the inflation was nine percent
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when I came in.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, Glenn Kessler, the fact checker for the far left
Washington Post, will take.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
A look at that, right. I like Glenn. He's a
nice guy. When Trump did interviews back in the day,
you got to have a live fact checker down in
the corner because he just lies so much. How about
claiming inflation was nine percent when you took over and
you lowered it as opposed to it was below the
target inflation it was in the ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(15:29):
So Mark Calpern wrote in his newsletter, Yes tod his
political news letter, that he feels like unless something changes
in the polling, Biden is going to have to debate,
because he's going to be in a position of I
need something that moves the needle, something that makes a change,
and a debate could whereas there aren't many other events.
There aren't many other ways too. If you're behind change
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the narrative, and so he's thinking it's much more likely
now than it was before that there is a debate
because Trump wants a debate. That would be an epic
poop show.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
And I think it probably will happen for the reasons
you and Mark Alpern just enunciated.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
But make the Stormy Daniels try it seem like Lincoln Douglas.
I mean, it's just oh boy.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And I know at some point, maybe in the next
half hour, you want to talk about the denying the
weapons to Israel thing.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I have more thoughts on that as well. Absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
And at some point we need to get to the
Chicago Teachers Union's demands in that fair city.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
It's just stunning.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
If you can't stay tuned or you don't get that
hour or whatever, grab the podcast when convenient. It's called
Armstrong and Getty on demand. We do four hours every day.
We put all or four hours up when it's convenient.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
We'll get more of the testimony from the trial that's
coming out, Miss Daniels. Are we supposed to believe in
horny mechanics. Two, that does a man fixed your car
and took in payment. And if I may be so coarse,
I think gets into a list of things she did. Wow. Wow, Yeah,
we'll stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
She just said something else that was utterly, hilariously ridiculous.
And the jury has just got to be rolling their
eyes at this point.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
And what has this got to do with anything? Has
to be one of the questions Armstrong and Getty Man.
I keep getting sucked into the Stormy Daniels trial. If
your pardon the expression, she uh, they've taken a little
break on the stand right now. Some of the reporting
is just so dumb. So Maggie Haberman of the New
York Times, she's a big time reporter, Like, she's one
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of the most important political reporters in America, for better
or worse, and I'd mostly say worse. But anyway, she's
very bright. But I find her wildly biased. Oh, unbelievably,
like I get to point of incredibly unfair. Yeah, but
she's an important deal. And she writes in the New
York Times, she's doing minute by minutes on the Stormy
Daniels trial. We're taking a short break. Stormy Danil comes
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off the stand, she doesn't look at Trump. Here's a fast,
fascinating detail. And then as Trump leaves, he points and
smiles at Greg Kelly, the newsmax's host, with whom he
is very chumming. But an interesting line they're going with,
and we'll get to this later because this is not
what we're actually supposed to be talking about. They're trying
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to Trump's lawyers are trying to make Stormy seem like
she's lying about the sexual encounter because Trump's always denied it.
And I just think that's I think you're doing more
harm than good because now you got okay, we've got
two liars here. Yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I mean, shaking her credibility, I get, but you don't
need to go that far because you don't want to
put in the jurors minds. If you're convinced that they
did have sex, well the defense is lost because that's
not what you're right. Yeah, they don't make that question
the question. Yeah, it makes it seem like that's what
the case is about. Yeah, I don't know, but.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
What do I know? I so should have been a
prosecutor much more importantly, and I mean much more importantly,
like The biggest story of the week is Biden holding
back these weapons from Israel. Here's the way ABC reported
it last night.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
The US for the first time acknowledging a major policy shift,
pausing a shipment of thousands of bombs to Israel. Israel
is growing increasingly frustrated with the US over the decision.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
The concern is that.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
The thirty five hundred bombs in that shipment could be
used in Raffa, where more than a million civilians are sheltering.
Officials pointing specifically to the destruction caused by two thousand
pound bombs in civilian areas. The President's statement and the
movement into Raffa putting pressure on all sides to reach
a deal on a ceasefire.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Is it so? Joe Biden said in this interview on CNN,
one of his rare interviews, that two thousand pound bombs
have been used. If they go into raw I won't
supply the weapons.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
He goes on, We're going to continue to make sure
guys they're less secure in terms of iron Dome and
there a beilieves a response to its tacks like came
out of you the UH and the least recently, but
it's it's just wrong. We're not going to we're not
going to supply the weapons and artillery shells use.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
That have been used. Artillery shells as well, Yeah, artillery shells.
Not gonna send the bombs, not gonna send artillery shows.
We'll still support Iron Dome. You know what that is.
That's classic Joe Biden. Yeah, all kinds of defense. You
can keep shooting at us and trying to kill us.
We're just gonna defend. But we're not gonna We're not
going to be the aggressor and try to win this
war against a bunch of evil scumbags. Well, that would
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be escalatory jack right.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Not only that, and I hate to distract, but why
did they bother that poor old man on his deathbed?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Sounds terrible? Yeah, he does, he really does a little
more from the interview.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
I've made it clear to BB in the war cabinet
they're not going to get our support if in fact
they're going these population centers. We're not walking away from
Israel's security, walking away to Israel's ability to wage war
in those areas.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
So it's not over your red line yet.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Not yet, but it's we've we've held up the weapons
we've we've held up the one shipment as an old
shipment design. We held that up.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I don't even know what that means, because his red
line is you going into Rafa. Well, you just withheld
all the weapons with the idea that they can't go
into Rafa without them. Sounds to me like they've already
crossed your red line or you're you're you're instituting the
punishment of the red line before it even happened. So
I don't I don't even know what that question was about.
We're taking away their ability to wage.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
War in those areas, the areas where Hamas is right,
So the enemy went into the populated areas because they
don't care if civilians die.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
The enemy. By the way, Hamas elected in a free
and fair election as far as everybody, and then nobody's
claiming it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
By those people. But anyway, right, Michael, quit holding back.
Play the clip where Biden says this is all on
Hamas because they've intentionally regrouped in a population center to
try to cow Israel into not attacking them.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Now, get to that clip. That's the worst part of
the interview because you could fairly disagree with my point
of view in that you don't think we should be
given these weapons. That's a position, it's not insane. I
don't agree with it, but you've got to include in
the interview. Remember all of this is caused by Hamas.
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Hamas attacked Israel, killed all these people. And the reason
that these population centers are even part of the conversation
now is that's where they're hiding. They're hiding under schools
and hospitals and businesses. They're taking aid that is meant
for the local population and using it for themselves or
selling it. You never said a bad word about Hamas,
No one bad sentence about Hamas. Just warned Israel and
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how awful Israel has been.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
An unconscionable interview. In my opinion, he's a terrible, terrible president.
Having said that, I'm gonna steal man, what I imagine is
the Anthony Blinken point of view, because it's not Biden.
You don't think it's Biden's making this decision, Well, yeah
it is to some extent. I think he's probably the
(23:29):
old business owner who you say, Dad, Dad, we're thinking
of opening another shop.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Dad.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Anyway, Wow, here's I'm gonna steal man their argument, as
they say, it will fundamentally.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Change the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
If we can get the packed signed between Israel and
the Saudi's UAE counter iron, get the trade going, recognize
Israel that whole package.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
That can't happen.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And if Israel is going hard at Hamas in Rafa,
and if they go hard enough and kill enough civilians,
it might not happen for another decade twenty years. So
what we've got to do is artificially cap this conflict,
put it in amber, as they say, temporarily have Israel
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bristling with arms, protecting itself against any ugliness. Hamas might
launch or has bolah, but not do anything offensive because
that would be better. And once all these packs are
signed and settled, then we'll work out a way they
can defeat.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Hamas or we can reform Hamas. That's not a bad position,
although I think the president if that's what he was doing,
and I'm not sure that is what he's doing, but
if that's what the President is doing, he still could
make it clear that Hamas is the evildoer, ear not Israel.
If you didn't know any better, when you listen to
any time the President thinks you'd think Israel was the
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bad guy. Yes, yeah, and it has been a whole well,
and I don't understand why they wouldn't if that is
their position, more or less spell it out and then
add in. If I was the Secretary of State, I
would add in.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
And when that pact is signed and we can solidify
the agreement, we'll all get together and discuss how to
end extremism in the Palestinian territories.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And it will end. It must end. Israel cannot be
asked to live side by side with extremists who vowed
to wipe them off the face of the earth. Why
is he not saying stuff like that? I don't know.
That's not a horrible argument, the idea of the Saudi
Arabia and all that sort of stuff and changing the
Middle least forever. But that is a home run swing, Yes,
yes it is. And you're asking them to hold on
(25:47):
hope Amas doesn't attack you again and murder a bunch
of babies and rape a munch of grandma's. You just
hope that they don't. In the air, well, they will.
But whether it's successful or not is the only question
mentioned this earlier. Ian Bremmer, who I like, but I
don't agree with this take, He tweeted out. Israel's move
into Rafa is escalatory. Yeah, they're trying to escalate it
(26:09):
until they win. And I don't understand how we ended
up in this position where we just don't at Any
escalation from the side of the good guys is bad.
Ukraine shouldn't escalate, We shouldn't escalate. Israel shouldn't escalate. Nobody
should escalate against Iran, no matter how many missiles they
said at you.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Michael, give me some theme music, would you anything you
got handy?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Welcome to Joe Getty's Historical Theater. In today's episode, Franklin
Delano Roosevelt on June fifth, nineteen forty four? Was it
forty four? Forty four? General Eisenhower as the president?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Here?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
How you doing? I I'm good, sir. What's up?
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Listen that whole D Day plan. We had a beautiful
job of planning it. But it occurs to me that
in Va in Europe would be escalatory. So call it
off or are you serious?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Click? That's Joe Getty's historical theater. You want to win
a freaking war? You escalated? Yeah? I was listening to
a podcast yesterday they were going through the Wait a minute,
FDR was he wasn't a Southerner, he was a Northeastern patrician.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
He was.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yes, I apologize wrong accent. I didn't want to get
bogged down by accent shaming. It's really bad. I apologize.
We got another good clip, okay, hit us with it.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
When I when I went over immediately after that happened,
I said to Bbe, don't make the same mistake we
made the America. We want to get Ben Lauden and
it will help you get Simar. But we went into
Afghanistan two. We made sense to go get Ben Laden.
Made no sense to try and unify Afghanistan. Made no
(27:56):
sense in my view, to engage in thinking that in
Iraq they had a nuclear weapon. Don't make the same mistake.
Focus on and will help you focus on getting the
bad guys. But then I got to think through what
is happening after Gasa.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
It's just incoherent. I don't I mean, I'm I'm not
just trying to be you know, right wing talk radio guy.
I don't understand how our weird decision to attack Iraq
is the same as Israel finishing off Hamas right there
next to their border.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Well, and Rafa is a third the size of Washington,
d C. In what sense is that analogous to Afghanistan.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Trying to make a democracy out of Afghanistan. I don't know.
I don't I don't get that argument.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Right, trying to make them Yeah, that was incoherent. And
again it sounds like you've gone into a hospice.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
What I loved about.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Takrilla man he said it made sense to go after
bin Laden, yet he was the only one who voted
against going after that right.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Ultimately, Yeah, what was I going to say? And another
thing to say is that Joe.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Make the mistake we went I mean made when we
went into America he later said, Afghanistan. But the guy's
just incoherent.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Anyway, we're gonna be following this story. It's I think,
ya who's gonna do what he wants to do with
or without those bombs? I think? And now this is
going to play out well.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
And even if I or a blinkin were to make
the argument that I made for let's get the accord done,
then we can blah blah blah as PB net and Yahoo,
I'd say, you know, I totally recognize how that's in
your best ye, your best interest, your self interest. What's
in our best interest is defeating Hamas. So that's what
we're gonna do. Thanks for coming. Do you think this
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is purely.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Joe Biden worried about losing that college crowd vote even
though polling shows that they're not. They don't care this
much about this topic.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
No, No, I think it's I think that's a factor.
I think it's more or what you were describing, the
old Joe Biden half measures.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
We don't want to escalate, Let's be careful here, That's
what I think. I think it's just a philosophy. And
as listened to a good podcast yesterday where they're talking about,
we haven't since World War Two finished off anything Korea, Vietnam,
Afghanistan or Iraq, whatever that was. But we we never
(30:26):
finish off anything. We never pick an enemy, decide that
we got to win, and then win. We haven't in
like eighty years. Isis that's a that's a small ish enemy.
But you're right, that's been the tendency. Just get it
back to being manageable, then check out, and then sometimes
having to go back again because you didn't finish it
off like I rack anyway, you have any comment on
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that text line four one five nine five kftc. Katie
Green is doing a difficult war of following closely the
Stormy Daniels testimony as she is still on the stand
in the whatever this trial is. What's the latest there, Katie.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
So they just came back from break and Trump's attorney
started talking about the night where Stormy was at a
nightclub with Trump and Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
How do you like that, I'd say, if if I
would tell my sister or my daughter or whoever, if
you if you want to avoid men coming on to
you strongly and put you in uncomfortable sexual situations, how
about you don't hang out at bars with Donald Trump
and Ben Rothlessberger? Good lord? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Trump's attorney then quickly changed subjects and asked Daniels about
promoting her make America Horny Again tour on Instagram, and
then she asked Stormy Daniels if Stormy understands what Donald
Trump is charged with, and Stormy replied, I don't really understand.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I'm just here to answer the questions asked to me. Yeah,
America doesn't understand particularly nobody understands the charges to be
to be fair to her, and those who do are saying,
what the hell is this case? That's kind of funny though,
that she is there being grilled for now seven hours
and has no idea what the trial is about. I
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wonder how many of the jurors said, you know, I
don't either. Really. Wow, that's great though. Yeah, that was
a great moment for Trump right there. Huh, that didn't
occur to me right away. But don't you think that's
really good for the jury to hear the witness they've
been talking to for I think seven hours now say
I don't know what it's about. I don't know what
this case is about. Yeah, you know what it is.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
And again, in this case, what's good for Trump is
good for America because you can't have every local DA
in America have the power to bring down a presidential candidate.
That's insane. I mean, if they committed an actual crime, yes,
but if you have to spring string together a handful
of misdemeanors then try to enforce a federal law you
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have no jurisdic diction over. That's clearly politics not justice.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Thank you, kiddy. I want to clear up I am
not suggesting that it would be Stormy Daniel's fault if
something untoward happened. It's still on the perpetrator of Ben
Roethlisberger or a Donald Trump. But oh, something like terrible happened. Yeah, yeah,
but she's not claiming Trump did anything. No. No, she
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went into the sort of situation where people go into
to get laid, and she got laid, if I might
be frank, and didn't give any indication the chatty Ney
problem with it until like right before the presidential election. No,
she's hoping to get on the Apprentice in return for
getting laid. Yeah, there was this. A woman wrote a
great piece I was going to read a week or
(33:44):
so ago, but I'll have to find it. But it
was very controversial. It was written by a woman saying,
do you know why the casting couch is a thing?
Do you know why it's a trope? Because it works,
It's always happened, it still happens. It works a lot.
There are lots and lots of women that are willing
to make that deal true. It's always been true. And
to act like when it comes out that it happened,
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that it was just oh my god, I can't believe this.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Or akin to rape right now, It certainly isn't. Sometimes
it is, that's case by case, of course, but a
lot of times it's not. And you know, a deal
was struck. Yeah, I have sex with you, you'll consider
me for the Apprentice. Yeah, that sort of thing happens
all the time, and the fact that we pretend it
doesn't is interesting.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Well, and she's a porn star, so it only had
to make it slightly more likely that she ends up
on the Apprentice for to be worth her while, right,
And it's not like she was just an actress, much
less a school teacher or secretary. She's a porn star.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
So yeah, the idea that wait a minute, she was
willing to trade sex for a career opportunity.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
What are you trying to tell me? I mean, who
are you people? Anyway? Again, we got to keep bringing
it back to that's not what this trial is about anyway,
not at all.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
No, boy, is this I just hope people are honest
with what an embarrassment and mistake this was when it ends.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Do you still feel like she's going to try to
turn this into yet another tour of America's third rate
strip joints?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I think and I realize I'm going out on one
of her limbs here.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I think that's beneath even her. Yeah, she might be.
This might be the end of the road for the
fame of Stormy Daniels today. Sad, isn't it. Armstrong and
Getty
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty Show.
At times, Stormy Daniels appeared really quite tense when facing
questions from Trump's defense team.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, we knew this was going to be unpleasant. I mean,
they got her to admit that, yes, she hates the defendant.
She has said that she would quote dance if you
went to jail. She always him hundreds of thousands of
dollars as a result of other litigation, And they pulled
up a tweet where she said she doesn't want to
pay that quote orange turd.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
A single dime. Well that's from the other day, classy.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I expect better than that from my porn stars, orange Turd.
So they took the day off yesterday, and Stormy Daniels
back on the stand today, keeping mind, of course that
almost none of this has anything to do with the trial.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
But for some reason, she's on the stand continuing. Now
she's being cross examined by Trump's lawyers and they're going
after her hard on a number of different things. Katie,
what have you seen so far? Oh? Boy, what haven't
I seen? Watching this?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Looks like right now they are talking about Stormy Daniels
not having any dinner.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
When this whole hotel room thing happened.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Apparently she went on Kimmel and was making jokes about
she was holding out in the hotel room for dinner
but never got any food, and they're really jumping on
her over that right now. And also Trump's attorney asked
Stormy Daniels about her experience and making porn films and said, quote,
you have a lot of experience and making phony stories
(01:42):
about sex appear to be real.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Oh good line.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Wow, And Stormy responded, That's not how I would put it.
The sex in the films is very much real, just
like what happened to me in that room.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
What happened to me. There's the victim line. It happened
to me. I went there by choice. I'm not claiming
I that he did anything under ord er anything like that,
but it happened to me. Okay, So that's a slight
change in the direction.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I'd meant to interject this before we even got rolling,
and I was tied up and doing something else, so
I'll interject it now. There might be a few of
y'all who are like, why are you guys making a
big deal of this? And part of it's just that
it's fun. It's I mean, it's like a TV style
courtroom drama, like most courtrooms never are, so it's just
(02:30):
flat fun. But more importantly, there are over thirty thousand,
three hundred district attorneys in the United States, over thirty thousand.
The idea that any single one of those could look
at the party he doesn't like and say, all right,
it's looking like Smith is going to be the candidate.
(02:53):
I am gonna Smith did some business in my town once.
I'm gonna cook up some charges that probably won't get
a conviction, but they'll keep him in court for weeks
so he can't campaign. I'm gonna file those charges. The
idea that's something that horrible could catch hold in America.
It's a nightmare. It's a constitutional nightmare. I want to
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see it fall apart now because I'm a huge Trump fan.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
But if this catches hold and becomes common, we are screwed.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You are right about that. But here's a hilarious note.
Last night, on the day Trump had off, what did
he do when he got the opportunity to campaign? He
had a big dinner at mar A Lago for the
investors in his NFT card thing, you know where he
dresses like a race car driver or a cowboy or whatever.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Oh, dinner, he had dinner for the people that invested it.
I had such a role going. That's what he did
with his day off the campaign.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Nonetheless, if I may return to my serious own, Okay,
so I picked up on this. I get what's going
on here, Katie, and I didn't. I don't know when
Storby Daniels started trying to portray what happened in Trump's
room is a dinner, because that gets her off the
hook for why did you go to the room? Right
If she claims it was a dinner, I wasn't just
going to a guy's hotel room where of course, if
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a guy invites you to his hotel room, you got
to at least be thinking perhaps he's gonna make a
move on me. She said they were gonna have dinner,
but no food was served. So that's what Trump's lawyers
are beating her up over, is like, how is this
a dinner if there is no food showing up at
any point?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But I'll still hang around and have sex with you
to get on the Apprentice. That's what happened to me.
The jury has just got to be thinking, this woman
makes used car salesman look credible. Why is the prosecution
insulting my intelligence by asking me to believe this pile
(04:50):
of crap?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well this is pretty good. So Trump's lawyer is this
is the way the time New York Times is presenting it.
Trump's lawyer is is doing this parsing of words. Over
was at a dinner? Was their food? Desire is saying,
because Daniels has told her story in many places, many
different times. I mean, she's done a gazillion interviews, you know,
radio Howard Stern, sixty minutes, you know, all kinds of
(05:14):
different magazines, tweets about it. Over because this happened in
two thousand and six, is that right the date? Or
two thousand and seven. It's a long time ago? Wow,
damn near twenty years ago. Anyway, She's told the story
many places and many times, as in The New York
Times says, and invariably there will be alterations in each recounting,
and defense lawyers just love it when the witnesses have
(05:35):
given multiple accounts of the same event.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah, Yeah, watching a note from The New York Times.
This is a quote because you know, they add in
their little opinions or little clickbait things, the defense's attempt
to color Daniels as nutty and slutty, as a constant
nutty and slutty, nutty and slutty.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
That's what a guy's A lot of guys are looking for. Hmm,
come on, gotta say, be better than that. I'm delighted
that this is falling apart.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
That reminds me one time. I'm this is quite a
few years ago, but I'm outside in the town. I
live in big college town. It's kind of late at
night on a Friday night, and there was a whole
bunch of dudes. I mean, they had the frat bro vibe.
I don't know if they're frat bros, but but anyway,
they're going down the street and they're chanting. They're clapping
(06:24):
them in the channing. So what do we want a
girl with low self esteem? What do we want now? Boy? Wow,
I'm high and uh And the female companion I was
with the time said, and they'll find one. Oh, that's
so tawdry. It is tawdrey and true. Nutty and sluddy
(06:47):
your honor, I'm calling for a recess.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Anything else we ought to know, Katie about the cross
examination at this point or.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
On that note, they did.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Trump's attorney did ask if they were going to go
to break and the judge said, we're going to go
a little while longer.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, yeah, there's still we need a real recess like
with Teeter Totters and Swings. I mean, it's like a
full break there.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Can you imagine if well, if Chicago was conservative, which
it hasn't been since Mayor Daily sent in the night
Sticks on the Hippies in nineteen sixty eight, it would
be effortless to cook up charges against Obama, who lived
and worked and did business, his wife had her no
show job or fake job at the hospital and everything.
It would be effortless to cook up some sort of
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charge against Obama while he was campaigning.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
This is so dangerous.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
And the fact that well, let's measure of the times
we're living in, but the fact that very few lefty
or even you know, centrist media outlets are reckoning with
how awful this is is. It's another example of one
of the of something I said the other day. If
we're okay with this as a society, we deserve whatever
(07:57):
fate awaits us.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
We're debaut Well, what they're talking about on this stand
is certainly debauched. That whole evening, Joe Biden gave an
interview to CNN. He said a lot of stuff about
Israel and withholding the bombs from him. He also made
some economic claims that were just flat out bogus, and
CNN called him out on it. And Katie, if the
(08:20):
human trampoline says anything else interesting, bring it to us
right away. I'll jump right by God all on the way, Armstrong.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
And why should people here believe that you will succeed
at creating jobs where Trump failed?
Speaker 6 (08:40):
He's never succeeded in creating jobs, and I've never failed.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
That's the idea that presidents create jobs to start with.
And then secondly, as we know, Joe Biden takes credit
for all the jobs coming back after the pandemic, which
is just hilariously intellectually disingenuous. I mean, just it's so
far over the top.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It's hard to uh weigh that and the stormy Daniel's
testimony and to figure out which one more people would
buy now.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So he did an interview with CNN one of his
rare actual sit down having to answer question interviews with
Aaron Burnett on CNN yesterday. The most important stuff was
the stuff about the withholding the bombs from Israel and RAFA.
We'll get to that again later. I think that is
gonna it's it's hard to know what's the worst things
he's done in his presidency. I hope I don't get
another term to add to it. The pull out from
(09:30):
Afghanistan like historically horrible, bailing out the student loans historically
horrible and unfair and costing us what is the total
going to be? How many trillions of dollars? And done constitutional? Yeah,
the border, I mean just absolutely historically awful. But the
withholding the bombs from Israel, not letting them go after
(09:53):
somebody who's help been on killing them all is amazing
to me. But this stuff on the economy is worth
pointing out because he said something so incredibly untrue. Not
just like your usual spin like you just heard here,
but this here's Joe Biden part of the interview.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Although GDP last week was far short of expectations, ah wasn't.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Look GDP's still grow.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Look at the response to the markets overwhelmingly positive. No,
president's had the run we've had in terms of creating
jobs and bending down and fishing was nine percent when
I came to office. Nine percent.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
What about?
Speaker 5 (10:25):
I mean, but there's real pain. I mean, grocery prices
are up thirty percent, more than thirty percent since the
beginning of the pandemic, and people are spending more on
food and groceries than they have at any time really
in the past thirty years. I mean, that's a real
day to day pain that people.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
No, No, it really is, and it's real.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
But the fact is that if you take a look
at what them people have, they have the money to spend.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah. So their analyst right after the interview, John God
what is his name? Flips out of my head. He's
been there with CNN forever anyway. His analysis was, he said,
I'm gonna have to push back on the president here.
I travel around and talk to voters all the time.
They're going to be very angry with this interview as
he tells them, No, things are fine, You're just interpreting wrong.
(11:13):
That is not how people feel. I mean. CNN really
pushed back hard on that then to the specifics which
they didn't push back on. But when he said inflation
was nine percent when I came to office, I thought
it was That doesn't sound right. No, it was one
point four percent when he came into office. One point
four to nine. You're quibbling. So inflation was nine percent
(11:37):
when I came into office and we've brought it down
since then, or it was one point four percent. You
passed those several trillion dollar deals that even lefty Larry
Summers said was going to cause inflation. It did. And
uh yeah, So I missed that interview.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I'm so glad we got that audio because that is
something It strikes me. He's so bad dad at being president.
At this point he explained that so poorly. I mean
the mumbling, the lack of force, that the just lack
of coherence.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
His tone is so wrong.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It reminds me of his awful, awful explanation of what
he's doing to Israel right now. He's just spent as
a human anyway. But back to the economics of it.
I came across this clip. This is Adrian L. Rod,
who's one of the campaigns spokespeople. Listen carefully to what
she says. I will interpret it it's fifty three, Michael,
(12:31):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Contrast is so clear. How do you explain Trump.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Being up in most, if not all, of the swing
states in this country, the seven or eighty that will
decide things come November.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Well, a lot of voters are.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Not tuning in the look. As much as I would
would love to think that a lot of voters are
watching cable news all day, a lot of them are not.
They're living their every day lives. And I think when
you see more voters tune in, understand what's at stake.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You know, look at.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
President Biden's economic record, what he's delivered for American families,
what he will continue to deliver.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Let me interpret, people have gotten the idea they're miserable
from their real lives. What we need them to do
is tune into cable TV so we can convince them otherwise,
and to mistrust their eyes and ears and checkbooks.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, and that's not gonna go to work.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Even John King, that's his name from CNN. Even John
King had to jump in and say, that's not what
voters are telling me. Inflation is killing him and it's
still really, really bad. So I can't believe that he's
still going with the what your feeling and seeing is wrong. Yes,
look at the stock market. Okay, that's not listen to
(13:43):
these statistics. Yeah, so I can't believe they're not doing that.
I mean Bill Clinton would have fully just embraced you
know that. I feel your pain thing. It's awful. I
feel it every day myself. We're working on it every day.
I don't know how people get by. Hurts my heart
to think how a family of four out there tries
to no tell them they're wrong, but what they're feeling
(14:05):
is wrong.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, we're choosing between groceries and our kids' sports teams.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Now you're wrong.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Inflation is down. And then at the very beginning of
the interview, they did that line of questioning, blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah. You're down in all
these polls. How do you explain being so far down
to Trump? And these poles? He said, polling, what you
would do? I look at these poles and how many
people did you survey? Twelve hundred people and most of
them you can't even get on the phone. And the
modern heress of polling is everybody knows pollings so he
(14:34):
was doing the whole pos polls are wrong act at
which every politician does when they're behind. When they're ahead,
they act like they're you know, from Moses himself, now
the depressing punchline. And yet they're tied, yet their tide
and he goes both directions on that. Oh boy. But
the really egregious one is the inflation was nine percent
(14:59):
when I came in.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, Glenn Kessler, the fact checker for the far left
Washington Post, will take.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
A look at that, right. I like Glenn. He's a
nice guy. When Trump did interviews back in the day,
you got to have a live fact checker down in
the corner because he just lies so much. How about
claiming inflation was nine percent when you took over and
you lowered it as opposed to it was below the
target inflation it was in the ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(15:29):
So Mark Calpern wrote in his newsletter, Yes tod his
political news letter, that he feels like unless something changes
in the polling, Biden is going to have to debate,
because he's going to be in a position of I
need something that moves the needle, something that makes a change,
and a debate could whereas there aren't many other events.
There aren't many other ways too. If you're behind change
(15:52):
the narrative, and so he's thinking it's much more likely
now than it was before that there is a debate
because Trump wants a debate. That would be an epic
poop show.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
And I think it probably will happen for the reasons
you and Mark Alpern just enunciated.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
But make the Stormy Daniels try it seem like Lincoln Douglas.
I mean, it's just oh boy.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And I know at some point, maybe in the next
half hour, you want to talk about the denying the
weapons to Israel thing.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I have more thoughts on that as well. Absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
And at some point we need to get to the
Chicago Teachers Union's demands in that fair city.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
It's just stunning.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
If you can't stay tuned or you don't get that
hour or whatever, grab the podcast when convenient. It's called
Armstrong and Getty on demand. We do four hours every day.
We put all or four hours up when it's convenient.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
We'll get more of the testimony from the trial that's
coming out, Miss Daniels. Are we supposed to believe in
horny mechanics. Two, that does a man fixed your car
and took in payment. And if I may be so coarse,
I think gets into a list of things she did. Wow. Wow, Yeah,
we'll stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
She just said something else that was utterly, hilariously ridiculous.
And the jury has just got to be rolling their
eyes at this point.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
And what has this got to do with anything? Has
to be one of the questions Armstrong and Getty Man.
I keep getting sucked into the Stormy Daniels trial. If
your pardon the expression, she uh, they've taken a little
break on the stand right now. Some of the reporting
is just so dumb. So Maggie Haberman of the New
York Times, she's a big time reporter, Like, she's one
(17:39):
of the most important political reporters in America, for better
or worse, and I'd mostly say worse. But anyway, she's
very bright. But I find her wildly biased. Oh, unbelievably,
like I get to point of incredibly unfair. Yeah, but
she's an important deal. And she writes in the New
York Times, she's doing minute by minutes on the Stormy
Daniels trial. We're taking a short break. Stormy Danil comes
(18:00):
off the stand, she doesn't look at Trump. Here's a fast,
fascinating detail. And then as Trump leaves, he points and
smiles at Greg Kelly, the newsmax's host, with whom he
is very chumming. But an interesting line they're going with,
and we'll get to this later because this is not
what we're actually supposed to be talking about. They're trying
(18:21):
to Trump's lawyers are trying to make Stormy seem like
she's lying about the sexual encounter because Trump's always denied it.
And I just think that's I think you're doing more
harm than good because now you got okay, we've got
two liars here. Yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I mean, shaking her credibility, I get, but you don't
need to go that far because you don't want to
put in the jurors minds. If you're convinced that they
did have sex, well the defense is lost because that's
not what you're right. Yeah, they don't make that question
the question. Yeah, it makes it seem like that's what
the case is about. Yeah, I don't know, but.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
What do I know? I so should have been a
prosecutor much more importantly, and I mean much more importantly,
like The biggest story of the week is Biden holding
back these weapons from Israel. Here's the way ABC reported
it last night.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
The US for the first time acknowledging a major policy shift,
pausing a shipment of thousands of bombs to Israel. Israel
is growing increasingly frustrated with the US over the decision.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
The concern is that.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
The thirty five hundred bombs in that shipment could be
used in Raffa, where more than a million civilians are sheltering.
Officials pointing specifically to the destruction caused by two thousand
pound bombs in civilian areas. The President's statement and the
movement into Raffa putting pressure on all sides to reach
a deal on a ceasefire.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Is it so? Joe Biden said in this interview on CNN,
one of his rare interviews, that two thousand pound bombs
have been used. If they go into raw I won't
supply the weapons.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
He goes on, We're going to continue to make sure
guys they're less secure in terms of iron Dome and
there a beilieves a response to its tacks like came
out of you the UH and the least recently, but
it's it's just wrong. We're not going to we're not
going to supply the weapons and artillery shells use.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
That have been used. Artillery shells as well, Yeah, artillery shells.
Not gonna send the bombs, not gonna send artillery shows.
We'll still support Iron Dome. You know what that is.
That's classic Joe Biden. Yeah, all kinds of defense. You
can keep shooting at us and trying to kill us.
We're just gonna defend. But we're not gonna We're not
going to be the aggressor and try to win this
war against a bunch of evil scumbags. Well, that would
(20:43):
be escalatory jack right.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Not only that, and I hate to distract, but why
did they bother that poor old man on his deathbed?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Sounds terrible? Yeah, he does, he really does a little
more from the interview.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
I've made it clear to BB in the war cabinet
they're not going to get our support if in fact
they're going these population centers. We're not walking away from
Israel's security, walking away to Israel's ability to wage war
in those areas.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
So it's not over your red line yet.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Not yet, but it's we've we've held up the weapons
we've we've held up the one shipment as an old
shipment design. We held that up.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I don't even know what that means, because his red
line is you going into Rafa. Well, you just withheld
all the weapons with the idea that they can't go
into Rafa without them. Sounds to me like they've already
crossed your red line or you're you're you're instituting the
punishment of the red line before it even happened. So
I don't I don't even know what that question was about.
We're taking away their ability to wage.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
War in those areas, the areas where Hamas is right,
So the enemy went into the populated areas because they
don't care if civilians die.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
The enemy. By the way, Hamas elected in a free
and fair election as far as everybody, and then nobody's
claiming it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
By those people. But anyway, right, Michael, quit holding back.
Play the clip where Biden says this is all on
Hamas because they've intentionally regrouped in a population center to
try to cow Israel into not attacking them.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Now, get to that clip. That's the worst part of
the interview because you could fairly disagree with my point
of view in that you don't think we should be
given these weapons. That's a position, it's not insane. I
don't agree with it, but you've got to include in
the interview. Remember all of this is caused by Hamas.
(22:42):
Hamas attacked Israel, killed all these people. And the reason
that these population centers are even part of the conversation
now is that's where they're hiding. They're hiding under schools
and hospitals and businesses. They're taking aid that is meant
for the local population and using it for themselves or
selling it. You never said a bad word about Hamas,
No one bad sentence about Hamas. Just warned Israel and
(23:06):
how awful Israel has been.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
An unconscionable interview. In my opinion, he's a terrible, terrible president.
Having said that, I'm gonna steal man, what I imagine is
the Anthony Blinken point of view, because it's not Biden.
You don't think it's Biden's making this decision, Well, yeah
it is to some extent. I think he's probably the
(23:29):
old business owner who you say, Dad, Dad, we're thinking
of opening another shop.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Dad.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Anyway, Wow, here's I'm gonna steal man their argument, as
they say, it will fundamentally.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Change the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
If we can get the packed signed between Israel and
the Saudi's UAE counter iron, get the trade going, recognize
Israel that whole package.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
That can't happen.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And if Israel is going hard at Hamas in Rafa,
and if they go hard enough and kill enough civilians,
it might not happen for another decade twenty years. So
what we've got to do is artificially cap this conflict,
put it in amber, as they say, temporarily have Israel
(24:22):
bristling with arms, protecting itself against any ugliness. Hamas might
launch or has bolah, but not do anything offensive because
that would be better. And once all these packs are
signed and settled, then we'll work out a way they
can defeat.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Hamas or we can reform Hamas. That's not a bad position,
although I think the president if that's what he was doing,
and I'm not sure that is what he's doing, but
if that's what the President is doing, he still could
make it clear that Hamas is the evildoer, ear not Israel.
If you didn't know any better, when you listen to
any time the President thinks you'd think Israel was the
(24:57):
bad guy. Yes, yeah, and it has been a whole well,
and I don't understand why they wouldn't if that is
their position, more or less spell it out and then
add in. If I was the Secretary of State, I
would add in.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
And when that pact is signed and we can solidify
the agreement, we'll all get together and discuss how to
end extremism in the Palestinian territories.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And it will end. It must end. Israel cannot be
asked to live side by side with extremists who vowed
to wipe them off the face of the earth. Why
is he not saying stuff like that? I don't know.
That's not a horrible argument, the idea of the Saudi
Arabia and all that sort of stuff and changing the
Middle least forever. But that is a home run swing, Yes,
yes it is. And you're asking them to hold on
(25:47):
hope Amas doesn't attack you again and murder a bunch
of babies and rape a munch of grandma's. You just
hope that they don't. In the air, well, they will.
But whether it's successful or not is the only question
mentioned this earlier. Ian Bremmer, who I like, but I
don't agree with this take, He tweeted out. Israel's move
into Rafa is escalatory. Yeah, they're trying to escalate it
(26:09):
until they win. And I don't understand how we ended
up in this position where we just don't at Any
escalation from the side of the good guys is bad.
Ukraine shouldn't escalate, We shouldn't escalate. Israel shouldn't escalate. Nobody
should escalate against Iran, no matter how many missiles they
said at you.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Michael, give me some theme music, would you anything you
got handy?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Welcome to Joe Getty's Historical Theater. In today's episode, Franklin
Delano Roosevelt on June fifth, nineteen forty four? Was it
forty four? Forty four? General Eisenhower as the president?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Here?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
How you doing? I I'm good, sir. What's up?
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Listen that whole D Day plan. We had a beautiful
job of planning it. But it occurs to me that
in Va in Europe would be escalatory. So call it
off or are you serious?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Click? That's Joe Getty's historical theater. You want to win
a freaking war? You escalated? Yeah? I was listening to
a podcast yesterday they were going through the Wait a minute,
FDR was he wasn't a Southerner, he was a Northeastern patrician.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
He was.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yes, I apologize wrong accent. I didn't want to get
bogged down by accent shaming. It's really bad. I apologize.
We got another good clip, okay, hit us with it.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
When I when I went over immediately after that happened,
I said to Bbe, don't make the same mistake we
made the America. We want to get Ben Lauden and
it will help you get Simar. But we went into
Afghanistan two. We made sense to go get Ben Laden.
Made no sense to try and unify Afghanistan. Made no
(27:56):
sense in my view, to engage in thinking that in
Iraq they had a nuclear weapon. Don't make the same mistake.
Focus on and will help you focus on getting the
bad guys. But then I got to think through what
is happening after Gasa.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
It's just incoherent. I don't I mean, I'm I'm not
just trying to be you know, right wing talk radio guy.
I don't understand how our weird decision to attack Iraq
is the same as Israel finishing off Hamas right there
next to their border.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Well, and Rafa is a third the size of Washington,
d C. In what sense is that analogous to Afghanistan.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Trying to make a democracy out of Afghanistan. I don't know.
I don't I don't get that argument.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Right, trying to make them Yeah, that was incoherent. And
again it sounds like you've gone into a hospice.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
What I loved about.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Takrilla man he said it made sense to go after
bin Laden, yet he was the only one who voted
against going after that right.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Ultimately, Yeah, what was I going to say? And another
thing to say is that Joe.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Make the mistake we went I mean made when we
went into America he later said, Afghanistan. But the guy's
just incoherent.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Anyway, we're gonna be following this story. It's I think,
ya who's gonna do what he wants to do with
or without those bombs? I think? And now this is
going to play out well.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
And even if I or a blinkin were to make
the argument that I made for let's get the accord done,
then we can blah blah blah as PB net and Yahoo,
I'd say, you know, I totally recognize how that's in
your best ye, your best interest, your self interest. What's
in our best interest is defeating Hamas. So that's what
we're gonna do. Thanks for coming. Do you think this
(29:46):
is purely.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Joe Biden worried about losing that college crowd vote even
though polling shows that they're not. They don't care this
much about this topic.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
No, No, I think it's I think that's a factor.
I think it's more or what you were describing, the
old Joe Biden half measures.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
We don't want to escalate, Let's be careful here, That's
what I think. I think it's just a philosophy. And
as listened to a good podcast yesterday where they're talking about,
we haven't since World War Two finished off anything Korea, Vietnam,
Afghanistan or Iraq, whatever that was. But we we never
(30:26):
finish off anything. We never pick an enemy, decide that
we got to win, and then win. We haven't in
like eighty years. Isis that's a that's a small ish enemy.
But you're right, that's been the tendency. Just get it
back to being manageable, then check out, and then sometimes
having to go back again because you didn't finish it
off like I rack anyway, you have any comment on
(30:48):
that text line four one five nine five kftc. Katie
Green is doing a difficult war of following closely the
Stormy Daniels testimony as she is still on the stand
in the whatever this trial is. What's the latest there, Katie.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
So they just came back from break and Trump's attorney
started talking about the night where Stormy was at a
nightclub with Trump and Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
How do you like that, I'd say, if if I
would tell my sister or my daughter or whoever, if
you if you want to avoid men coming on to
you strongly and put you in uncomfortable sexual situations, how
about you don't hang out at bars with Donald Trump
and Ben Rothlessberger? Good lord? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Trump's attorney then quickly changed subjects and asked Daniels about
promoting her make America Horny Again tour on Instagram, and
then she asked Stormy Daniels if Stormy understands what Donald
Trump is charged with, and Stormy replied, I don't really understand.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I'm just here to answer the questions asked to me. Yeah,
America doesn't understand particularly nobody understands the charges to be
to be fair to her, and those who do are saying,
what the hell is this case? That's kind of funny though,
that she is there being grilled for now seven hours
and has no idea what the trial is about. I
(32:12):
wonder how many of the jurors said, you know, I
don't either. Really. Wow, that's great though. Yeah, that was
a great moment for Trump right there. Huh, that didn't
occur to me right away. But don't you think that's
really good for the jury to hear the witness they've
been talking to for I think seven hours now say
I don't know what it's about. I don't know what
this case is about. Yeah, you know what it is.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
And again, in this case, what's good for Trump is
good for America because you can't have every local DA
in America have the power to bring down a presidential candidate.
That's insane. I mean, if they committed an actual crime, yes,
but if you have to spring string together a handful
of misdemeanors then try to enforce a federal law you
(32:56):
have no jurisdic diction over. That's clearly politics not justice.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Thank you, kiddy. I want to clear up I am
not suggesting that it would be Stormy Daniel's fault if
something untoward happened. It's still on the perpetrator of Ben
Roethlisberger or a Donald Trump. But oh, something like terrible happened. Yeah, yeah,
but she's not claiming Trump did anything. No. No, she
(33:24):
went into the sort of situation where people go into
to get laid, and she got laid, if I might
be frank, and didn't give any indication the chatty Ney
problem with it until like right before the presidential election. No,
she's hoping to get on the Apprentice in return for
getting laid. Yeah, there was this. A woman wrote a
great piece I was going to read a week or
(33:44):
so ago, but I'll have to find it. But it
was very controversial. It was written by a woman saying,
do you know why the casting couch is a thing?
Do you know why it's a trope? Because it works,
It's always happened, it still happens. It works a lot.
There are lots and lots of women that are willing
to make that deal true. It's always been true. And
to act like when it comes out that it happened,
(34:07):
that it was just oh my god, I can't believe this.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Or akin to rape right now, It certainly isn't. Sometimes
it is, that's case by case, of course, but a
lot of times it's not. And you know, a deal
was struck. Yeah, I have sex with you, you'll consider
me for the Apprentice. Yeah, that sort of thing happens
all the time, and the fact that we pretend it
doesn't is interesting.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Well, and she's a porn star, so it only had
to make it slightly more likely that she ends up
on the Apprentice for to be worth her while, right,
And it's not like she was just an actress, much
less a school teacher or secretary. She's a porn star.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
So yeah, the idea that wait a minute, she was
willing to trade sex for a career opportunity.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
What are you trying to tell me? I mean, who
are you people? Anyway? Again, we got to keep bringing
it back to that's not what this trial is about anyway,
not at all.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
No, boy, is this I just hope people are honest
with what an embarrassment and mistake this was when it ends.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Do you still feel like she's going to try to
turn this into yet another tour of America's third rate
strip joints?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I think and I realize I'm going out on one
of her limbs here.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I think that's beneath even her. Yeah, she might be.
This might be the end of the road for the
fame of Stormy Daniels today. Sad, isn't it. Armstrong and
Getty
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