April 22, 2019 • 42 mins
“Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God” Brian Zahnd interview: https://youtu.be/eIVTxQH0O20
“God in the Hands of Angry Sinners” by C Baxter Kruger: https://www.perichoresis.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/God-in-the-Hands-of-Angry-Sinners.pdf
Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God, The Prodigal Son, Penal Substitutionary Atonement and the Monster God Debate
There are those who have confused the idea of Penal Substitution for the Gospel itself.
This does matter because it paints God as a Monster. Brian and I talk about his talk, the Death of the Monster God and the Monster God debate.
I talk about my own experience with this aberrant heretical theology that many of us have inherited and been raised in. I was led to believe that Jesus came to save us from God. That Jesus death paid off the wrath of the Father. That the Father spent all his righteous fury on his Son on the cross who was sentenced to hell instead of us.
John Crowder said in a recent Jesus Trip video:
“There’s a lot of foolishness in that idea that we call penal substitutionary atonement. The idea that God was abandoning or punishing his own Son in order to pay off his anger. That is absolute hogwash and the biggest heresy of the western world. It’s not biblical. The early church never believed the ridiculous idea that Jesus was saving us from God. This idea has nothing to do with the ancient faith of the early church fathers. Most importantly this idea does injustice to the Trinity.”
John Crowder - Did God Strike Herod, Ananias & Sapphira? - The Jesus Trip
“The cross is not what God inflicts upon Christ in order to forgive. The cross is what God endures in Christ as he forgives.” - Brian Zahnd
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“God in the Hands of Angry Sinners” by C Baxter Kruger: https://www.perichoresis.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/God-in-the-Hands-of-Angry-Sinners.pdf
Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God, The Prodigal Son, Penal Substitutionary Atonement and the Monster God Debate
There are those who have confused the idea of Penal Substitution for the Gospel itself.
This does matter because it paints God as a Monster. Brian and I talk about his talk, the Death of the Monster God and the Monster God debate.
I talk about my own experience with this aberrant heretical theology that many of us have inherited and been raised in. I was led to believe that Jesus came to save us from God. That Jesus death paid off the wrath of the Father. That the Father spent all his righteous fury on his Son on the cross who was sentenced to hell instead of us.
John Crowder said in a recent Jesus Trip video:
“There’s a lot of foolishness in that idea that we call penal substitutionary atonement. The idea that God was abandoning or punishing his own Son in order to pay off his anger. That is absolute hogwash and the biggest heresy of the western world. It’s not biblical. The early church never believed the ridiculous idea that Jesus was saving us from God. This idea has nothing to do with the ancient faith of the early church fathers. Most importantly this idea does injustice to the Trinity.”
John Crowder - Did God Strike Herod, Ananias & Sapphira? - The Jesus Trip
“The cross is not what God inflicts upon Christ in order to forgive. The cross is what God endures in Christ as he forgives.” - Brian Zahnd
❤️Support Sozo Talk Radio: https://www.patreon.com/reflectworship
⏬Download this talk: https://sozotalkradio.com
👍🏽Connect: https://www.facebook.com/sozotalkradio
🎵Reflect Worship Music: https://reflectworship.com
📰 Blog: https://daniellovett.com
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